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Incoming 1Ls / Re: Legal Writing: who has a leg-up?
« on: April 18, 2008, 11:53:06 AM »
Stickerbook?! Win

No one's mentioned Volokh's Academic Legal Writing yet - I hear it's stellar.

(How do you embed a link and give it a non-linky name, lke lackof did?)

I would not recommend reading this before 1L. Its focus is on academic ( Aka scholarly ) legal writing, which is very different in form, function and style from the writing you do for memos and briefs. Its also has its own different citation rules.

Seconded. Academic legal writing is a different beast than 1L Legal writing class.

In all seriousness though, I wouldn't even bother with worrying about legal writing class right now. Its a necessary evil, and you will learn everything you need to learn once you're in the class.

Thirded. (Which isn't a word, and if you think it is, there probably isn't any help for you). Take that advice and enjoy the summer.

Current Law Students / Re: Best Supplement for Con Law
« on: April 14, 2008, 12:12:02 PM »
I agree that Chemerinsky's hornbook is the best way to go. There's no way to read it all if you're completely lost, at least not this late, but if you're looking for clarification on some issues, it's very helpful.

Current Law Students / Re: Summer starters have an "unique" advantage?
« on: April 12, 2008, 10:18:03 AM »
Even though they started early, there are still NALP deadlines, so they don't have the advantage of applying ahead of other 1Ls. If your grades are as good or better, you stand just as good a chance of employment since many law schools and firms, especially BIGLAW follow NALP.

Source: NALP
D. Summer Employment Provisions for First Year Students
Law schools should not offer career services to first-semester first year law students prior to November 1 except in the case of part-time students who may be given assistance in seeking positions during the school term.

Prospective employers and first year law students should not initiate contact with one another and employers should not interview or make offers to first year students before December 1.

All offers to first year students for summer employment should remain open for at least two weeks after the date made.

Don't sweat it. Like some of the other posters said, you can always use the lockers or switch off with books in your car if you have time. I have a laptop that weighs that much, and I'm fine with it. Don't go into debt to get something that is lighter if you don't have to.  :)

Current Law Students / Re: Hornbooks and E&E
« on: April 02, 2008, 07:44:59 PM »
I found Glannon's E&E for Civ Pro extremely helpful, but then again, my prof recommended it. I haven't found the E&E series as helpful in other classes. As for Con law, again, I agree Chemerinsky is awesome and it is keyed to his textbook. However, sometimes, it does seem like you are reading the same thing twice.
There's so many hornbooks, supplements, study aids out there, you really need to see what works best for you. Personally, I like the Crunchtime series. It's not very good if you haven't paid attention or did no reading during the year, but it is good, at least I think, to look over right before finals. It's short, easy to understand and quick to read. A couple hours and you can cover the entire subject, or you can use it to grasp those hard to understand concepts.
Also, I've used Law in a Flash flashcards. They aren't too helpful for concepts (though I have found a few cards that helped me understand something). They are extremely helpful, I thought, for hypos though. One other reason I like them is I can tuck them in my backpack and review them between class without having to add any more weight to the ton of books I already have to lug around.
Personally I haven't found the case briefs too helpful. They are good, however, when you haven't had time to read for class. They give you basic facts and black letter law.
The worst part about everything is cost. I, for one, probably went way overboard on study aids, supplements and hornbooks my first semester. Now, I still have a lot, but I think I have found the ones that work best for me, and that's what is important. Also, in the end, I can sell them all and maybe make back a little of what I spent.

Current Law Students / Re: Can You Have A Life in Law School?
« on: March 31, 2008, 07:13:47 PM »
It depends on how you manage your time. I work, commute, still find time to socialize and finished high.

Law school is what you make it to be. Going in, I was just like you. I heard the horror stories and read the books that tell you what to expect.I was out of undergrad for more than five years and had an awesome career.
Throughout the first semester, I found myself constantly asking.... what's wrong? I didn't feel the stress, even during exams. I didn't feel overwhelmed. I didn't feel any of the emotions everyone warned me I would.
In addition to class, I worked 20 hours per week and I commuted to and from school which took another 8 hours of time out of my week. Even so, I still got 6-8 hours of sleep each night, had time to eat, exercise and enjoy life with family and friends.
And, on top of it all, I got the grades. A 3.74 GPA and ranked 7 out of 151

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Legal Writing: who has a leg-up?
« on: April 17, 2008, 09:43:01 AM »
I generally don't end sentences with prepositions and I know the difference between they're, their and there. Will this give me an advantage in my 1L R&W class?

In other words, how easy is it for people who can't write for poo to do well in Legal Writing? And how easy is it for people who are decent writers to do poorly in Legal Writing?

(I hope announcing my self-assessed status as a decent writer won't send anyone into my archives to dig up typos and useage errors)

i haven't read anything in the rest of this thread, but i hear that people who were english majors have the most trouble with the stilted nature of legal writing.

I would agree with that. I was a communications major, and legal writing is vastly different. The only advantage is maybe a solid grasp on grammar.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Legal Writing: who has a leg-up?
« on: April 16, 2008, 06:55:00 PM »
Being a great writing in undergrad is by no means an indication that you will be a great legal writer. I wrote professionally for a number of years before going to law school and legal writing is entirely different. A grasp on grammar will help you, but the style is completely different. Don't be dead set in your ways and think you are such a great writer that your prof is wrong when he/she criticizes you.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Penn STATE Law 2011 University Park
« on: April 15, 2008, 06:13:48 AM »
The dorms are for undergrads, but there is graduate housing.

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