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Affirmative Action / Re: Just really frustrated about the lack of unrepresented minority at law schools..
« on: May 24, 2007, 01:30:06 PM »
law dog 07 wrote:
I think the LSAT is a barrier for many minorities. Reason being that many minorities cannot afford to pay the astronomical fees that are charged for the prep courses or prep materials. The LSAT does not test your intelligence. If you can manipulate the test, you will do well. This is what the prep courses teaches you. I know people with ugly GPA's that have scored in the 160's on their LSAT. Personally, I had a good GPA and my diagnostic score was a 148 on the LSAT (even though my GRE and SAT scores were good enough to work for Kaplan). I took the EXTENDED Kaplan course twice and learned the tricks like the back of my hand. I ended up scoring in the 170's. I could afford to pay the $1500 because I am a working professional. A lot of minorities do not have that option or the finances which leaves them behind the curve...
your logic on why minorities can't ace the lsat is ignorant and severely flawed! you are making the assumption that all, if not most minorities do not have jobs or well paying jobs and can't come up with 1500 bucks. in addition, you are saying they are all lazy and do not want to study unless they have top notch classes to attend. aside from that, you do not need to pay that money to ace the lsat. there are public libraries littered with materials, online free materials and relatively cheap books on the LSAT at bookstores. for you to say that one MUST take a kaplan lsat prep class to excel is ridiculous.
Furthermore, plenty of non minority- i.e. whites do very very bad on the lsat. some of them do not have money either. although i am a first generation greek (my parents immigrated here in the 70's) i am not considered a miniority because of my skin color- im "european american" and if you look at the definition of minority in the applications, you will see the white box is often described as "of european descent". that's me, even though i am not from this country per se. so it is about color for the most part, if not all. i can, however, self appoint myself as a minority, but they will see right through it and decide that i am white- even though i have dark olive complexion.
second of all, my garbage line was not an insult- it was an illustration and you won't comment because you know i am right about that. if there were all white garbage men, our state would actively recruit more blacks and asians and what not. but i will bet they aren't even trying to recruit more whites to the job. and you can replace the sanitation profession with anything, it doesnt matter, its just the point.
i hope this time you call it like it is- not how you WANT to see it. be fair, you don't have to agree with me, but you should see both sides and know that i am not a bigot/racist or anything of that nature.
have a blessed day
I think the LSAT is a barrier for many minorities. Reason being that many minorities cannot afford to pay the astronomical fees that are charged for the prep courses or prep materials. The LSAT does not test your intelligence. If you can manipulate the test, you will do well. This is what the prep courses teaches you. I know people with ugly GPA's that have scored in the 160's on their LSAT. Personally, I had a good GPA and my diagnostic score was a 148 on the LSAT (even though my GRE and SAT scores were good enough to work for Kaplan). I took the EXTENDED Kaplan course twice and learned the tricks like the back of my hand. I ended up scoring in the 170's. I could afford to pay the $1500 because I am a working professional. A lot of minorities do not have that option or the finances which leaves them behind the curve...
your logic on why minorities can't ace the lsat is ignorant and severely flawed! you are making the assumption that all, if not most minorities do not have jobs or well paying jobs and can't come up with 1500 bucks. in addition, you are saying they are all lazy and do not want to study unless they have top notch classes to attend. aside from that, you do not need to pay that money to ace the lsat. there are public libraries littered with materials, online free materials and relatively cheap books on the LSAT at bookstores. for you to say that one MUST take a kaplan lsat prep class to excel is ridiculous.
Furthermore, plenty of non minority- i.e. whites do very very bad on the lsat. some of them do not have money either. although i am a first generation greek (my parents immigrated here in the 70's) i am not considered a miniority because of my skin color- im "european american" and if you look at the definition of minority in the applications, you will see the white box is often described as "of european descent". that's me, even though i am not from this country per se. so it is about color for the most part, if not all. i can, however, self appoint myself as a minority, but they will see right through it and decide that i am white- even though i have dark olive complexion.
second of all, my garbage line was not an insult- it was an illustration and you won't comment because you know i am right about that. if there were all white garbage men, our state would actively recruit more blacks and asians and what not. but i will bet they aren't even trying to recruit more whites to the job. and you can replace the sanitation profession with anything, it doesnt matter, its just the point.
i hope this time you call it like it is- not how you WANT to see it. be fair, you don't have to agree with me, but you should see both sides and know that i am not a bigot/racist or anything of that nature.
have a blessed day