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Current Law Students / Re: Is the era of biglaw over forever?
« on: June 22, 2009, 05:52:42 PM »
The t14 will remain. What will happen is that the bottom half of the class in USN 7-14 will no longer get decent jobs.  People outside the t14 will be completely screwed.

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Current Law Students / Re: Is the era of biglaw over forever?
« on: June 21, 2009, 07:25:47 PM »
Big law isn't over, but it may well not resemble biglaw of 2004-8 for a long, long time. Big finance has its fingers up its collective a$$.  Since big finance bankrolled biglaw for much of the past decade, expect biglaw to shrink dramatically.  There will be no need for 3/4 of the lawyers on wall st doing transactional work.  those who are left will probably get less money for what they do than a middling associate used to in '07.  Welcome to the new normal.

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Current Law Students / Re: Top 10 Percent
« on: June 21, 2009, 01:21:32 PM »
"So, the fact that this guy said way above the median means 51% at best and even then I bet he is much lower than that."


Top 20 % at a T-14.  What do I win?

I hope, for your sake, that you're less of a jackass in person.

"As far as the case brief book keyed to your book, these are the law students guide to Cs. They are targeted at lazy students and they will hurt you in the end. To succeed on the exams you must not only know all of the rules of law but also how to apply them and the reasoning behind them."

That's nonsense.  If you're confident enough you can use the lecture and the case summaries to get all that is necessary from cases.  Most of the background details in cases is not the least bit useful and is not worth your time. 

Even if you aren't confident enough to do the above, I don't see what absorbing the extra material in cases gets you.  Somebody needs to explain that to me.  In your explanation, please be sure to include why I can be top 20 % after my first year and have, for the most part, ignored the extra bit.

"Law school is all about the details and reading the cases will not only give you a better understanding of the law but it will help you learn how to write good answers to the exams."

From my perspective, it's not really about "the details" at all.  It's about understanding the law, the motivation behind the law and any subtleties that mark differences between the two.  It's also about teasing out applicable paradigms, ideas and policy that apply to the salient features of a fact pattern and then making arguments based on those observations. If your argument relies too heavily on the minute details of a case or, even worse, details of precedential cases that aren't applicable even if the overall ruling might be, you're likely mucking up an important aspect of the law.

In my view, anybody who focuses on details and/or tertiary concerns is headed for mediocrity.  The only reason to sweat the details is if you've already nailed the most important points.  In my experience, if you've already nailed the most important points, sweating the details won't do much to improve your grade.






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Current Law Students / Re: Netbooks over Traditional Notebooks
« on: June 20, 2009, 05:41:43 PM »
netbook b1tch!cDxWx

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Current Law Students / Re: Top 10 Percent
« on: June 20, 2009, 05:24:10 PM »
Pay attention in class.
Do all of your assigned readings.
Attempt an answer when called.
Outline as semester winds down.
Finish outline, go to review (if applicable), take practice exams.
Take exam.

Just do that. Don't focus on survival or top 10% or whatever.  Do the above and the law school gods will tell you where you stand (which will undoubtedly be above people such as myself who don't do above.) Let the other 0Ls over-analyze law school.

I'm well above median and I successfully outlined only a single class.  Coincidentally, it was my worst grade.  I also did about 50% of the assigned reading for most of my classes and ended up doing quite well.  One of the keys is to get a case summary book specific to your sections casebook.  In my experience, reading every inch of every case is not only unhelpful... it can be detrimental.  Your time is better spent on gaining an understanding of where the ruling fits into the big picture than you are worrying about the details of the case. Outlining is great, if it works for you.  I just used a bunch of old outlines from previous students.  Again, it seems to work better for me to not sweat the mechanics or the details.

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Current Law Students / Re: Does the second semester suck any less?
« on: December 06, 2008, 10:22:55 PM »
up, i'm gonna have to jet too for the moment.  Later Stevens.

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Current Law Students / Re: Does the second semester suck any less?
« on: December 06, 2008, 10:21:41 PM »
Walls!!  How are you?  Did you end up where I think you did?  central time zone?

How are things?

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Current Law Students / Re: Does the second semester suck any less?
« on: December 06, 2008, 10:18:58 PM »
missed you too, man.  I mean, bear.

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Current Law Students / Re: Does the second semester suck any less?
« on: December 06, 2008, 10:16:06 PM »
catch you later bear.  I'm in the same situation, but it's contracts (not civ pro) that's up my ass.

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Current Law Students / Re: Does the second semester suck any less?
« on: December 06, 2008, 10:13:40 PM »
I love you bear. 

I probably love you too, otherguy, but I don't recognize you yet.

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