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The amount of people with 3.8+ UGPA's around here is simply astonishing to me... I don't know a single person in real life that's been anywhere near having an A average. Might be regional differences of course, or you guys are really bright and I'm gonna get owned next year:(

I have a 3.88 in a 4.3 system, which translates to a 3.83 if I change it for a 4.0 grading system, and I agree with what others in this thread have been saying. The key to getting anything over a 3.8 is hard work and understanding exactly what each prof you have wants from you. Some want you to think outside the box, some want you to just regurgitate whatever they are having you read. It all depends. In some ways, it's sad, because I have always felt that I am selling out to get such a good GPA, namely by catering my exam answers, essays ect. to what I think the prof in question will want to read. This is, however, the way things work in university, and if you want to get good grades, you need to know how the system works.

I think there is also a very large variation in GPA's depending on what school you attend. Some schools (*cough*Harvard*cough*) are notorious for GPA inflation while others, such as MIT, are notorious for keeping undergrad GPA's way down. In many european countries, such as Germany, undergraduate GPA's are usually very low because the freshman year is used to seperate the men from the boys, in a sense. As such, the first year of undergrad has the toughest grading, which usually hurts your overall GPA in the long run.

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Oh Canada! / Re: US GPA Inflation
« on: April 28, 2007, 09:22:13 PM »
Concordia works on a 4.3 scale (90%+ is an A+ although many profs refuse to give them) and the average GPA is 2.7.  I think it's really particular to the university, some are big on inflation others push their average down.

The average GPA at Harvard is 3.4, granted they have a body of exceedingly qualified, hard working students but that is still very high.

Let's be realistic here. Harvard is in a different class than Concordia.

WHAT!? Concordia told me they were better than Harvard when I applied there! Liars!

Hahaha!

For real though, I'm at Concordia in Political Science (with the crazy activists...) and I love the school, but I will say that comparing the average Concordia grades to average Harvard grades is erroneous. Harvard is full of extremely hard working (not always intelligent, though...) students who all had 4.0 GPA's in High School, perfect SAT scores, ect. When these kids get into Harvard, they obviously aren't going to start slacking off. If Concordia was full of Harvard kids, Concordia's median GPA would be 3.4+ as well. Its the quality of the students, not the grade deflation. I don't mean that as an insuilt either, because Concordia has a vibrant and exciting student body. It just isn't a student body that is as academically excellent as a place like Harvard, which has an undergrad admit rate of 9% (!?!).

Concordia (and other Montreal schools like UQAM, and to a lesser extent UdeM) are basically like New York City's CUNY system--large, diverse, public universitiies that are not exceedingly dfficult to get into (average incoming CEGEP grades are 82-85%). As such, you will obviously get lower grades at Concordia, UQAM, and UdeM, than at Harvard not due to grade deflation, but due to the students there. As I said, I am a hardcore Concordia lover and I am saying this, so I'm not hating.

 It is also very possible to get a high GPA at Concordia, McGill, UdeM, or any other Montreal university. I have a 3.9 right now (not to toot my own horn, of course...) and I did it by working hard. That's it.

Meh, now nearing the end of the cycle I couldn't care less about grade inflation/deflation. I've come to realize it's probably very small thing for admission committees.

I agree.

I feel that alot of undergrad students dont give enough credit to admissions boards. People who work on admissions for law school, or any other graduate school, POUR over admissions. They don't just browse over it, see that you have a 3.2, and immediately throw your application into the "Rejected" pile. Many variables play into the selection commitee, such as undergrad school attended, major, ect. "Grade Deflation" is usually just an excuse people use to argue why their top choice didn't admit them.

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Oh Canada! / Re: US GPA Inflation
« on: April 28, 2007, 12:41:45 AM »
Concordia works on a 4.3 scale (90%+ is an A+ although many profs refuse to give them) and the average GPA is 2.7.  I think it's really particular to the university, some are big on inflation others push their average down.

The average GPA at Harvard is 3.4, granted they have a body of exceedingly qualified, hard working students but that is still very high.

Let's be realistic here. Harvard is in a different class than Concordia.

WHAT!? Concordia told me they were better than Harvard when I applied there! Liars!

Hahaha!

For real though, I'm at Concordia in Political Science (with the crazy activists...) and I love the school, but I will say that comparing the average Concordia grades to average Harvard grades is erroneous. Harvard is full of extremely hard working (not always intelligent, though...) students who all had 4.0 GPA's in High School, perfect SAT scores, ect. When these kids get into Harvard, they obviously aren't going to start slacking off. If Concordia was full of Harvard kids, Concordia's median GPA would be 3.4+ as well. Its the quality of the students, not the grade deflation. I don't mean that as an insuilt either, because Concordia has a vibrant and exciting student body. It just isn't a student body that is as academically excellent as a place like Harvard, which has an undergrad admit rate of 9% (!?!).

Concordia (and other Montreal schools like UQAM, and to a lesser extent UdeM) are basically like New York City's CUNY system--large, diverse, public universitiies that are not exceedingly dfficult to get into (average incoming CEGEP grades are 82-85%). As such, you will obviously get lower grades at Concordia, UQAM, and UdeM, than at Harvard not due to grade deflation, but due to the students there. As I said, I am a hardcore Concordia lover and I am saying this, so I'm not hating.

 It is also very possible to get a high GPA at Concordia, McGill, UdeM, or any other Montreal university. I have a 3.9 right now (not to toot my own horn, of course...) and I did it by working hard. That's it.

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Law School Applications / Re: New York Law School... NYC law schools
« on: April 22, 2007, 03:25:25 PM »
I truly believe that being meanspirited would be to NOT tell sahrunner how dumb his plans are. i don't particularly feel like standing idly by why naive young adults go into astronomical debt that follows them their entire lives.

Keno, you also said that too many people on here take a dump on anyones dreams if they don't involve T14 law. I totally agree with you, and that mentality is both destructive and wrong. However, I was not attacking sahrunner for not going to a T14 law school. Rather, I was attacking him for making decisions as IF he was already OUT of a T14 law school, when in reality he is not even accepted to a tier three school as of now. Making lif decisions based on misguided thinking such as "I'm sure I will make 100K a year straight out of Law School, so living in Manhattan should be a  breeze!" is destructive like you wouldn't believe.

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Law School Applications / Re: New York Law School... NYC law schools
« on: April 22, 2007, 02:34:56 PM »
Keno,

 My previous post (the one you responded to) was actually my very first on this board. I felt so compelled to remind sahrunner of how idiotic his plans were that I actully started an account just for him. He should feel honored, frankly.

 In regards to your post, you seem to be drinking gllons of Sahrunner Kool Aid if you don't honestly realize how retarded his plans are. Even if he could live in Manhattan, he would still come out of law school with 100K+ in debt and a job that most likely pays no where near what he intends on makings after graduating. Sahrunner is perhaps the most delusional internet poster I have ever seen. He makes the former Iraqi Minister of Information look understated.

 Please Keno, for the love of GOD, do NOT give sahrunner any indication that his plans are good ones. If you do, I hope you can live with yourself in 4 years when you run into him panhandling on Fifth Avenue.

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Law School Applications / Re: New York Law School... NYC law schools
« on: April 22, 2007, 02:42:20 AM »
Delusions, delusions, everywhere.

Well actually, only from sahrunner.

Listen, before you accuse everyone of being a "know it all New Yorker" dying to piss all over your dreams, have you maybe stopped to think that if there is a SEVEN page thread dedicated to convincing you how wrong you are about moving to Manhattan, going to law school, and racking up hazardous amounts of debt, then maybe, just MAYBE, you should reconsider your "great" plan?

You seem completely disconnected from the real world. Let me plug you back in, my dear.

1) Manhattan is one of the most expensive places to live in the WORLD, along with Tokyo, London, and downtown Moscow. Many businessmen can`t even afford it, so how in the hell will you, a Law Student living off of loans make ends meet?

2) You plan on working in the non-profit/public/Good Works sector after law school with 100K in school debt? Do you WANT to declare personal bankruptcy and be thrown in debtors prison?

3) MPA's do NOT make 80K a year starting salary. They barely make 50K, and thats what I want to go into, so its probably in my own interest to radically inflate these figures. You also say that, if you should decide to go to Syracuse, you will casually enroll inte their MPA program which happens to be at Maxwell, if I'm not mistaken, the top ranked Public Affairs school in the NATION! You have a 2.9 GPA! There is no WAY you are getting in there unless you have 45 years of work experience for the United Nations and served as the Secretary General. I have a 3.9 and they would probably reject me offhand because I don`t have enough work experience.

This thread actually intrigued me at first, because I thought you were just a "country bumpkin" shtick that someone invented to get a few laughs. When I figured out that you are, in fact, a very real, very misguided person, it shocked me to the utmost. What are you thinking!?

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