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And Ponoroff and Davies please ;D ;D ;D?

Ponoroff will try to scare you for sport, but he is actually a lot of fun. Don't take him too seriously, he is having fun. He is an outstanding professor and you shouldn't have any problem staying engaged. Don't be afraid to stand your ground. His favorite saying is (paraphrased),"The more wrong you are the more you need to sound like you are confident you are right." 

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I just figured mine out.

Nothing before 10:00 any day.  Then again, I have a feeling Legal Research/Writing until 5:00 on Wednesday may feel like slamming my balls in a glass door by semester's end.

Overby for Contracts
Hoeffel for Criminal Law
Sherman for Civil Procedure
Donelson for Legal Research/Writing
Couch for Torts


Comments/Concerns?

You are good.

Hoeffel is wildly entertaining and  great no-nonsense prof. I only know he others anecdotally, but I don't think you caught any trouble there.

Suggestions that I withdraw now?


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Also up, MWF I am at 10, TR at 8:30. works for me.

Anybody have any feedback about the Gordley, Houck, Friedman, Sackey, Couch lineup?

You almost got the hardass hat trick. If only you had Ponoroff for contracts.  Gordley is the absolute best professor for a 1L. He is a huge deal.
Houck does NOT F around. He will probably ask you to stand and recite your case (one of the only to do this). If you aren't prepared for his class, I suggest bagging it. If you have not read he will send you to his office to read while he carries on with class. However, he is an incredible prof and a leader in environmental law.
Friedman is very intense and another person not to be cutesie with. Again, you have a top notch prof. for Civ. Pro. The best we have.
I have heard Couch is a really good prof. and not too intense.

Overall, you have tough profs but you will be at an advantage for the rest of your career. They will break you in. Trust me, you will be glad you had them.

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2Ls, what are the various moot court dates coming up?
I think Appellate drops packets on Sun., the 10th. Trial drops on the 28th.  I know the deadline for appellate briefs is Sept. 5, with argue on around the 22nd.  Don't remember Trial.

I require further explanation ... what the FFFF are you talking about? I'm interested in practice-court stuff, but ...

-- why is it up to a 2L?
-- what is a drop?
-- why do we care about briefs?

... and so forth. Thanks.

Sorry,
1Ls can only salivate on the sideline.
The drop just means they have made the packet accessible on Westlaw's TWEN site (much like write-on packets).
You don't care about briefs until Spring. If you are trying to argue on to an appellate moot court team, you will have to write a brief. Your oral argument will give you a taste.

You get a chance to show off in the spring right before finals. The 1L Trial Open will have you scratching your head, "Why in the hell am I writing an opening argument when I have 4 exams in two weeks?"  But, it is worth it. I strongly urge everyone to try it. The judges are nice and will give you advice and encouragement for arguing on to a trial team. 

That said, the 2Ls who aren't on Law Review, but want something to bang their chests about (that would be me) now have to spend the last weeks of summer scrapping together our least favorite writing assignment. Fun.

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2Ls, what are the various moot court dates coming up?
I think Appellate drops packets on Sun., the 10th. Trial drops on the 28th.  I know the deadline for appellate briefs is Sept. 5, with argue on around the 22nd.  Don't remember Trial.

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Hey, will you 2Ls tell us when class schedules are *really* available, so we don't have to wait until orientation?


I think our came available like a week or two before (fuzzy memories).  Email the registrar's office for your PIN, they should be able to provide it soon.  Then just obsessively check TOUR (from the main tulane site>>>registrar>>> Register for Classes) until something good happens. Technically, they won't release it until orientation, but, it is possible history will repeat itself and you can get a sneak peak. 

1Ls post your schedule for critiques and advice.  Somebody is going to get the Friedman (Civ Pro), Ponoroff (Contracts), Houck (Crim Law, aka, stand and deliver) tandem. That is going to be hard core, but really good.

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^That's an excellent question.

Did everybody find housing? DS, I am looking at you. Just wanted to volunteer to help out if anyone needs a scout.



You will get your ID Card at orientation. You can use it at the bookstore to purchase books and they will substract it from your financial aid disbursement.

Problem is, you and 250 of your new closest friends are all trying to get books at the same time. So, if you aren't patient, like me, run to the bookstore when you get your ID. Buying all used books will save you $100 to $150 for first semester. I spent just under a grand first semester (not counting supplements I bought later).

Don't buy all the useless LRW stuff. Bluebook and Shapo (or whatever they are using this year as the main text) are it. They had us buy a blue book cititation work book that was pointless because we did the same exact problems online.

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What other things can the OL's save a little jack on by getting it early?

My list:
You know you will need a most recent copy of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. Look on half.com, ebay, etc.
Examples and Explanations for Civil Procedure, Glannon, 4th ed.   (HIGHLY USEFUL!)
The Bluebook, 18th edition ("A Uniform System of Citation"
      wait to buy any other books for LRW, they will typically only assign one main resource book. See the syllabus and then decide how heavily   your prof. uses them. Use the reserve room.
 
Y'all chip in with other suggestions. This should save you enough to buy us a beer.



Hey Wave,

Why the 4th edition of Glannon's book? Does the 5th edition not have anything substantial added to it? Also, I assume we want the "educational" version of the fed rules of civ pro?

Which supplements are best for the other courses and worked well for you? I've heard they're very helpful with torts and property as well, but not sure if Glannon's torts book is tops or not; or does this depend at all on which section I am placed in?

Oh, my memory is stale. 5th edition is fine, but you will get 4th cheaper and I don't recall there being really any meaningful differences. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

All you want for the Fed Rules is one that has official comments and histories. You will get a free pocket version from Lexis, but that is hardly useful.
 Mine also had selected federal statutes in the back, but I could have done without them and just relied on Lexis, Westlaw or any number of free sites. 

I hope someone else will hop in with other suggestions.

I was able to save $80 alone by searching for my Civ pro book on Half.com. Point is, you can fish around for the good supplements before you know which prof you have. You can find stuff really cheap right after the bar exam when everyone is clearing out their old books.  That is now.

Good luck.

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What other things can the OL's save a little jack on by getting it early?

My list:
You know you will need a most recent copy of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. Look on half.com, ebay, etc.
Examples and Explanations for Civil Procedure, Glannon, 4th ed.   (HIGHLY USEFUL!)
The Bluebook, 18th edition ("A Uniform System of Citation"
      wait to buy any other books for LRW, they will typically only assign one main resource book. See the syllabus and then decide how heavily   your prof. uses them. Use the reserve room.
 
Y'all chip in with other suggestions. This should save you enough to buy us a beer.


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Hey all,

Just wanted to bid everyone farewell.  I hope you 2L's have solid years, and you 0L's come in ready to roll.

Don't have much of a reason to come back anymore to LSD, so I'm off for life's next great adventure.

God speed. Kick some ass.


And on another note.  All you eager 0L's looking for something to do.  You can revise your resume. Your LRW class will likely ask for it by your second week, so you might as well make some adjustments and get it in line. Once you have access to the intranet you can search "All Documents" and look under the CDO. They will have some model cover letters and resumes. You will seriously resent having to do it when you are trying to get used to your law school schedule. Do it now.

Boil it all down to 1 pg, unless you are TortNretort or someone with, otherwise, too much life experience to boil down to that small of a resume.
Good luck to everyone. It is a very exciting time.

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