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Current Law Students / Re: Law Review Write-on how hard?
« on: May 22, 2008, 04:05:16 PM »
In what situations, short of already being in your dream firm, would law review not be worth the effort, at least for having the ability to state you were accepted to law review?

I really really need some motivation to get this thing done, when it essentially is going to take time away from making $35/hour for every hour I spend doing the write-on for it. There is also a chance I may stick with part-time school/part-time work, in which case, every hour I spend doing law review stuff will be keeping me from making $35/hour.

Current Law Students / Re: What is the most difficult 1L subject ??
« on: May 20, 2008, 07:16:04 AM »
Yup, you don't even have the one that was leaps and bounds worse than all the other classes...combined.

Current Law Students / Re: Class Rank
« on: May 18, 2008, 08:27:48 PM »
Your ranking goes up when the top students transfer and it will also go down when a poor student drops out/flunks out. Keep in mind with transfers though, unless its a really low school, fairly smart people are transferring in to take their place, so what really matters is the net transfer rate. Both of these are almost certain to happen, so it is a balance of your net transfers (a negative rate helps grade-wise) vs. % attrition rate (the more that leave hurts you).

My school has a net transfer rate of about +6-7% (meaning we gain 6-7% students after taking into account those that transfer out and in) and an attrition rate of about 5-6%, so someone's ranking would actually drop 10% (if they were an average student) or so if they didn't improve from Someone in the top 25% or better would feel it a lot less since transfers would not necessarily mostly be placing above them, they probably don't move at all in ranking for the most part.

Eh, learn them fast, since they are a basic part of Contracts I. If you get expectation, you also get reliance/restitution. If you get reliance, you also get restitution. If you get restitution, that is all you get. As to what each of the interests are, expectation is the profits one was expecting to receive from a transaction. Reliance is all the money spent in preparation to perform (AFTER the contract was made). Restitution is just getting back whatever value you passed on to the other party.

Business cards are very prestigious.

Wow though, I am sure that guy in the onion article is enjoying his life now but just wait until he gets older, doesn't have a band, has no money, the girl leaves him, can't pay any medical bills he might have, is deep in debt and can expect to work until he dies. He is pretty much destroying any chance he has at a decent future. And 8.54/hour?! I made almost that in high school doing some 15 hours/week job. There are also plenty of jobs that pay twice what he's making and he could still surf the web most of the day too, what an idiot, he is getting royally screwed.

From what I have read, most transfer students don't place at the bottom of the class wherever they transfer, they usually are at least average, the law doesn't change that much, and required 1L classes at most law schools are all taught by professors from T14s. Obviously, the law students are going to be smarter on average, but the difference isn't going to be night and day. The biggest skill that gets good law grades is hard work/ability to study.

So you really should be asking, would an average student at a t25 have much better prospects than top 15-20% at a purely regional school.

Job Search / Re: what kind of job can I get?
« on: May 08, 2008, 02:30:01 AM »
It sounds like you really need to get out there and network. Honestly, if you had been concentrating on networking rather than an MA (in poly sci?! I guess it may be a little useful for governmental work, it honestly wouldn't even have been surprising if you had been dead-set on governmental work when you chose it, not a good degree for someone who wants lots of options though), you probably would have had a better idea of exactly what way you would be going, at least starting off. Still, it does seem like you have the drive to get work experience (don't you have a feel for whether you like government work by now?), through your governmental jobs, but you should really be focusing on talking with lawyers/governmental workers and seeing exactly what would make you stand out and what you want to do.

Go find the posts on networking.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Wayne State v. Michigan State
« on: May 07, 2008, 10:52:38 AM »
Foley & Lardner has an office in Mich, which does some IP Lit. That is about it as far as I know for Vault firms in Michigan.

Really don't recommend starting your outline until one month before the final, at the earliest, unless you have no clue how to outline. The closer you do it to the test, the better you are going to remember the material you organized in the outline. Personally, I don't start outlining until a couple weeks before my finals, same with my roommate, and we both are in the top 20% at our school. I pretty much just outline my notes, and include any materials my professor may have provided, including important handouts or especially powerpoints (for god sakes, if the professor uses powerpoints, don't outline right there in class, the prof is going to be saying all sorts of important things because he expects you to review the powerpoints later and get down what he says).

Current Law Students / Re: Taking notes in law school
« on: May 04, 2008, 06:15:36 PM »
"Discussion time" was pretty much surf the internet time for me. Nothing that has ever been said by a student in discussion has been on a test, or at least was not a good complete answer.

Oh, I had my computer crash. I back my computer up, but not every week. Know what you do? You take it to CompUSA or Bestbuy and have them do a data recovery...though...if you have a ton of blatantly illegal crap on your hard drive, you could get busted. Bring an external backup drive for them to copy stuff onto before they put in your new drive (if you don't have one, get one, hard drives on laptops are ridiculously small to begin with, you also need something to backup to). Anyways, my computer was given back to exactly how it had been before the crash, 4 days after it had crashed, for $40.

This is why you need to make friends with someone who knows something about computers  :P

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