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Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: Housing in Newark
« on: May 17, 2007, 03:35:03 PM »
Hey folks,

I'm looking to move to Newark (Rutgers) in the late summer. Being that I am from DC, I don't know the city that well. I have visited and Newark isn't worse then any other city I've ever lived. With that being said, I want to live in Newark. ANyone have any suggestions where to look or better yet is anyone looking for a roommate?

Incoming 1Ls / Re: The "I Just Resigned" Thread
« on: May 15, 2007, 09:06:45 AM »
Legal Assist. at a v25...I am out mid/late July....I have to train a replacement though....It is my punishment for leaving...

Incoming 1Ls / Re: What do you drive?
« on: May 10, 2007, 07:52:58 PM »

Did you ever find out info about the P/T day time program

Yea I asked the dean via email and although I didn't get an email response she did send me a letter offering me a seat in the p/t day program.  I spoke with David Weinberg today and he said there really hasn't been any waitlist movement yet but he expects some in June.

** Happy not to be traveling in and out of newark at all hours of the night**

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Cardozo v.... ?
« on: May 10, 2007, 07:11:17 PM »
Newark is only 15 mins from downown manhattan and the COL in newark and especially hoboken is not much cheaper than NYC.  Cardozo is the better school, but depending on what you plan on doing after school I think you might need to take the $$ SH is offering.  I currently live in Manhattan and I will be attending Seton in the fall.  I know the area pretty well so if you have any questions about where to live or a potential commute let me know.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Brooklyn PT vs. Rutgers-Newark?
« on: May 09, 2007, 02:46:08 PM »
Taking a clerkship should by no means be considered as "can't find anything better" imo. Having served as a clerk is looked very favorably upon by employers in the big law sector, just take a look at the attorney overview of major firms where such things are mentioned, you'll see numbers of lawyers with background in clerking.

Maybe true at Yale, but not at Brooklyn or Rutgers.  When I visited Rutgers, I asked career services about the percentage of law clerks who actually get the good jobs (federal, state supreme, appellete), and she gave me a bs answer.  There is nothing useful about clerking at a county courthouse. 

Yea, Seton Hall (where I will be attending) has unusually high judicial clerkship numbers.  The current student I spoke with said that about half are quality NJ clerkships and the other half seem to be lower end county clerkships (traffic court).  I think the high number of clerkships for NJ schools has to do with there only being three law schools in the state.

Law School Admissions / Re: Appealing Decision?
« on: May 09, 2007, 12:40:03 PM »
This is true, I agree with you.

Do it, I want to see what they say!

Is anyone else offended that a 156 3.0 is about to scam his way into biglaw?

not at all, undergrad gpa doesnt mean anything, some people dont try because they are too busy partying and havent matured enough to realize that your gpa might actually matter...some people work 40 hours a week...some people go through major life crisis in college...there are many reasons why an intelligent person might have done poorly as an for the lsat, many people don't do well the first time they take it, i don't know if that is the case here, but for Keno it really doesnt matter because he/she got into his/her number one choice....why would anyone retake the lsat if they didnt have to..

It wasn't a question, but apparently at last year's Vandy ASW some kid started a bar fight with a student and stuck his host with a huge bar tab.  It must be legendary because I heard the story from several students and a few people in admissions (his admit was not officially revoke but he was asked not to attend).  I've always wondered what kind of people post the terrible, offensive stuff on autoadmit; I'm pretty sure it's That Guy.

If anyone can go back and find the posts about the Duke ASW, you can read about the Admitted Students Gone Wild make session at the bar event, and the admitted studet who couldn't walk and had to be taken away in an ambulance...accompanied by a dean...

I imagine she isn't going to Duke...

I hope not.  Hope she's not going anywhere, really -- anybody immature enough to nearly get alcohol poisoning at an admitted student's weekend for a professional degree program should be working on bigger personal issues than getting a JD.  ...Actually anyone who gets that drunk regardless of venue needs to do some growing up and/or get treatment.  ...At least a Duke ASW Gone Wild make out session was consensual and not sexual harassment?

Stuff like this gives me a sense of why some people call law school a repeat of high school.  I'm frankly a little glad that I'll be skipping that aspect of it entirely.

A little off topic, but I work at a V25 firm in nyc...aparently during the 2005 summer there was a summer associate who took the partying to a whole new level.  This story is somewhat of a legend in our office and has been told so many times I am sure some details have been added or one friday our firm's summers and a few other mid and jr associates competed in  a scavenger hunt throught nyc....after the scavenger hunt the competing firms gathered at a reception hall on the east river for drinks and summer (not from our firm) got so intoxicated she proceded to strip and go skinny dipping IN THE EAST RIVER (from the way I have heard it, it was very similar to Will Ferrell's attempt to get everyone streaking in old school) it was low tide so after she jumped in she couldnt reach teh dock to get out...the nypd had to come in a boat and fish her out of the water..she was immediatly hand cuffed and taken away in a police car..all the while the partners from various top nyc firms were staring in amazement....needless to say...she was not offered a position

NYLS in any other location than NYC would probably have managed to climb into the lower end of T2 at least.

I agree! 8)
and hope law firms are aware of it when it comes to hire NYLS graduates...

Look, NYLS has great placement in biglaw for a T3, but they have competition from about eight higher ranked law schools in the area of the city, plus all the elite law schools from around the country that send lots of grads to NY. Harvard, Yale, Penn, Cornell, etc. all are filled with people who want to work in NY, and lots of ppl from farther afield also want to work in NY.

I guess you made a complete and precise assessment of the situation regarding NYLS! :D

For what is worth...I work at a Vault top 25 firm in NYC and we were recently given info on all the incoming summers...I was surprised to see so many NYLS students....I am sure they are at the top of their class, but it shows that students who attend NYLS and do well have ample opportunity in NYC...

Also, I spoke with my firm's HR people that hire summers and first years and the feeling i got regarding NYC area schools is:

NYU=CLS>Fordham>BLS=Cardozo>St Johns=Seton=Rutgers-Newark>Hofstra=NYLS<CUNY>Touro....

I call bull

What bull all you calling?

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