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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Is Georgetown overrated?
« on: May 21, 2008, 04:03:03 PM »
no school guarantees biglaw period. i know a few from HYS that couldn't get biglaw. even at UVA there are people that can't get biglaw.

I'd modify this slightly to "there are no guarantees in life." But.... looking at employment data for T14s suggests that most of them have at least half their class making market rate. At the very least, T14->biglaw gives better odds than calling heads on a coinflip. The same can't be said for (almost) all the other ABA schools. For 0Ls (and aren't we technically 1Ls now that the school year is over?) trying to make value-added decisions based on this information, polemics like
I can speak intelligently about the perceptions of some 0L's.  Many think T14=Biglaw, when it is not true outside HYS, if it is even true for them.
often get in the way.

My roommate UG was in law school, and was a pretty notorious gossip, and would always have it "on good authority" that one or the other of their classmates was doing ___ drug (cocaine, adderal, etc, fill in the blank). I've personally witnessed quite a few law school students indulging with pot, but nothing harder than that. If it helps them de-stress, I'm not going to ding them for it.

Relatedly, anyone heard of ProGivil? Apparently it's an anti-narcoleptic drug, and when taken by a non-narcoleptic it supposedly improves memory and concentration without the side-effects associated with stuff like cocaine. This one dude's experience was interesting:

Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: The Thread on Politics
« on: May 14, 2008, 07:23:28 PM »
Edwards is endorsing Obama...not that it matters.

This makes me happy. I express my happiness through the following emoticons:  :) :D ;D :o 8)

Also, looks like his 19 delegates will wipe out (and then some) Hillary's WV win last night...

General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: University of Florida 2011
« on: May 14, 2008, 02:19:01 PM »
Love the Tebow/Scooter stories. I also have experienced Tebow on his scooter, as he stopped while I crossed Museum street. I'm guessing he was headed to the practice field or something. I remember thinking at the time "WTF! Tebow doesn't yield to pedestrians!"

I also noticed that his scooter was pretty pimped out in Gator insignias and such. 'Twas sweet.

Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: The Thread on Politics
« on: May 14, 2008, 01:56:05 PM »
Democrat wins Mississippi special election

The South will rise again!

This was my favorite read on the special election:


The presidential primary in West Virginia was certainly a high-profile contest, but the eyes of the political world were largely focused further south, where a special election in Mississippi was poised to tell us a whole lot about the Republicans’ congressional strategy for 2008.

A few months ago, GOP congressional leaders came up with a sure-fire strategy for success. The Republican brand had fallen apart, but the party assumed it could persevere, especially in “red” districts, by nationalizing House races, calling Democratic candidates liberals, and connecting them to Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi. What could possibly go wrong?

Republicans gave this a shot in March, in Illinois’ 14th. The GOP felt good about its chances — the district had been represented by former House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R), Bush won the district twice by double digits, and Republicans have held the seat for decades. But when voters headed to the polls, a Democrat won by six points.

They tried again in April, in Louisiana’s 6th. Once again, the GOP went into the race optimistic — Bush won the seat by 19 points in ‘04, and Republicans have dominated the district for decades. This time, the Democrat won by three points.

Republicans were committed to doing whatever it took to prevent their strategy from failing three times in three months. So, when it came time for yesterday’s special election in Mississippi’s 1st, a very Republican district, the GOP pulled out all the stops to hold onto it — pumping money into the race, sending male private part Cheney down to campaign, running a bunch of ads featuring Jeremiah Wright, and using robo-calls from McCain, Bush, and the First Lady.

The Democrat won by eight points.

Democrats scored a remarkable upset victory on Tuesday in a special Congressional election in this conservative Southern district, sending a clear signal of national problems ahead for Republicans in the fall.

The Democrat, Travis Childers, a local courthouse official, pulled together a coalition of blacks, who turned out heavily, and old-line “yellow dog” Democrats, to beat his Republican opponent, Greg Davis, the mayor of Southaven, a Memphis suburb. With 99 percent of the precincts reporting, the vote was 54 percent for Mr. Childers to 46 percent for Mr. Davis.

The seat had been in Republican hands since 1995, and the district, largely rural and stretching across the northern top of Mississippi, had been considered one of the safest in the country for President Bush’s party, as he won here with 62 percent of the vote in 2004.

Given the results, it seems as if congressional Republicans are … what’s the word I’m looking for … screwed.

Merle Black, a Southern politics expert at Emory University, told the NYT that a Democratic in this district looks like “a huge upset, and an indication of a terrible year ahead for the Republicans.” He added, “In theory, this should be an easy win for them…. There are indications that the normal Republican turnout is just not there. If they can’t win up there, where are you going to win?”

Congressional Republicans are reportedly panicking behind the scenes, and honestly, I don’t blame them. Plan A was Boehner’s strategy about tying Dem candidates to Obama and Pelosi. This approach has gone 0-for-3 in three heavily Republican districts, the last of which the National Republican Congressional Committee spent nearly 20% of its entire bank account to keep. And here’s the kicker: there is no Plan B.

A GOP House leadership aide told the Politico last week that “if we don’t win in Mississippi, I think you are going to see a lot of people running around here looking for windows to jump out of.”

And with an eight-point margin, it wasn’t especially close.

NRCC Chairman Tom Cole (Okla.) was so dejected, he didn’t even try to spin his failure: “[T]he political environment is such that voters remain pessimistic about the direction of the country and the Republican Party in general…. I encourage all Republican candidates, whether incumbents or challengers, to take stock of their campaigns and position themselves for challenging campaigns this fall by building the financial resources and grassroots networks that offer them the opportunity and ability to communicate, energize and turn out voters this election.”

In other words, the man responsible for overseeing House Republican campaigns nationwide just told every GOP candidate, “Good luck; you’re on your own.”

DCCC Chairman Chris Van Hollen responded to the results this way: “There is no district that is safe for Republican candidates.”

At first blush, that may sound like hyperbole. It’s not. If Dems can compete and win in these three districts, they can compete and win anywhere in the country. Republicans are not only left bloodied and confused; they’re also left with no answers about how to prevent a wholesale disaster in November.


From "There is no district that is safe for Republican candidates." at The Carpetbagger Report

I also read that this district is around the 110th most Republican district in the country (there are 199 R's in Congress as of today!). Yay yay yay...

Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: The Thread on Politics
« on: May 13, 2008, 08:05:11 PM »
Part of the growing trend of progressive evangelicals, if you will.

Also Obama wears his faith on his sleeve a lot more than McCain does (and yet still people think he's a muslim... not only a muslim, but now an apostate muslim! wtf!).

Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: The Thread on Politics
« on: May 13, 2008, 02:11:41 PM »
As for my opinion about Obamania, it's based on reading blogs, having several Obama-organizing friends, and attending Ba-rack the Vote and stuff.  (Since I have no Clinton-supporter friends, I can't make the same kinds of judgments, and I really don't understand her appeal, to be frank.)  I'm a meek Obama supporter, but I have found some of the "movement" smug and off-putting, and I would prefer more engagement with policy arguments.  And I don't think he's the progressive candidate a lot of people believe he is based on his youth and charisma and a few winks and nods.  I have, at times, been impressed by Obama, but more often I'm left wanting more.  That's all I'm saying. 

I agree with a lot of this. One of the blogs I read jokingly refers to Obama as the 'Magical Unity Pony.' :) Part of the problem (of the lack of policy arguments, not the 'mania') up until now was a lack of substantive policy disagreements between Obama and Hillary that they actually were interested in debating, with only the ridiculously dumb gas tax holiday coming up in the last month or two. In the last week though we've started seeing the beginnings of differentiation between Obama and McCain (on the environment, and veteran's benefits, which is near and dear to my heart).

As for his progressiveness, compared to who are we talking about? Nader? He's certainly the most liberal nominee we've had since Dukasis, which is incredibly good timing for the progressive movement, seeing as how the fundamentals are stacked so highly against the Republicans this year (82% think we're on the wrong track, Democrats trusted to do a better job than Republicans with the nation's problems by a little over 20%*; not noting this reality was a fundamental problem with Reed's essay by the way). Is he perfect? Hell no. Pandering on ethanol (which delivered Iowa and made everything else possible I suppose) and "clean" coal (which doesn't have a chance in hell of helping in WV and KY) piss me off, but that's par for the course for a national politician. I'm not sure I see the problem with his uniting rhetoric (which is also paired with much more calming foreign policy outlook, especially compared to Clinton's recent bombast), because his goal is unity around a liberal agenda.

*both from the latest WashPost poll here:

Umm, ok, I like you and everything, but you know, watch what you say about the P - she is a goddess among pundits.

Hey now, I never made it personal, and I certainly would have left out a lot of the snark had I known beforehand the essayist was a friend and colleague of the poster. The line about the professor, though, was a straight ripoff of Indiana Jones. :)

Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: The Thread on Politics
« on: May 12, 2008, 07:33:07 PM »
Talk about the professor no one hopes to get.

Speak for yourself.  He advised my thesis and he's an excellent professor.  Have you ever read any of his work, or are you basing your conclusion on this one opinion piece?

I do think it's thin, and, like I said, I disagree with his conclusion.  I also find quoting the Clinton apologist Sean Wiletz a little suspect.  That said, I don't think you can deny that Obama is a rock star to some of his supporters, who seem to have engaged in very little analysis of his policies or past. 

ETA: Adolph (no F) Reed is about as far as you can get from self-loathing.  (He's a narcissist if anything.)  Yes, he's critical of electoral politics, but he's not a cynical, navel-gazing critic like Dowd or a lot of "progressive" bloggers and pundits; he's an active political organizer.

So we both have our own biases at work in an analysis of his op-ed, fair enough. Can't say I'm too interested in more of his work based on this alone, I'm afraid (glad to hear he's active politically, even if he did in fact take time out this month to engage in some "cynical navel-gazing"). You seem to imply in your post that Obama's appeal is sometimes superficial, but back it up with your own (perhaps superficial?) opinion, for which you provide no evidence. I suppose I could do the same thing and speculate that many Clinton supporters simply assume that the political and policy talents of one Clinton will transfer to the other, somehow resulting in eight years of peace and another 90s economic boom. See how silly that is?  :-\ Can we go back to talking about how much McCain sucks now?

Law School Applications / Re: 3.76/168
« on: May 12, 2008, 05:03:51 PM »
I will be taking the June LSAT.

Worry about which schools you are going to apply to after you get your real lsat score. Your real score can drastically change your probability of admission to the schools on your list by going just 2-3 points above or below your current projection.

TITCR...  Trying to pick schools based on what you hope you get on the LSAT is like spending your lottery money before you've won.

My only advice is to study your ass off and make sure you take it in June. If you score around there, and have everything lined up ready to go in October, you'll be in great shape.

Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: The Thread on Politics
« on: May 12, 2008, 05:01:46 PM »
Lol yes, you should post here more often.



What do ETA and IMA stand for?

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