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Law School Admissions / Re: ITT: We advise BLAH on Duke vs. Cornell
« on: April 27, 2008, 10:17:59 AM »
Hmmm...two schools in the boonies.  i'd prolly go to duke, only bc the weather is better.

Durham and Ithaca are not the "boonies." What an idiotic, unhelpful comment. The defense of having known people who went there and didn't like it is also stupid. On behalf of those actually interested in these two schools, please leave the thread and never come back.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Men: Buying a suit...
« on: April 26, 2008, 09:32:47 PM »
please, tailoring is for chumps, if your pants are too long, wear it higher on the waste, if its too short, pull your socks up, if it's too loose, thats what belts are for, and if its too tight, just dont button it.

Finally, after 9 pages, advice we can ACTUALLY USE!!! Thank you!!!!

Law School Admissions / Re: ITT: We advise BLAH on Duke vs. Cornell
« on: April 26, 2008, 12:33:56 PM »
Reasons for Martin (not really sure of its applicability elsewhere, but pretty much in order of importance):

1. Fiancee had much better job prospects than Nashville (which was *my* other school)
2. They offered me a nice scholarship
3. Only T14 I had to choose from
4. I like the Southern weather (flew up to visit my folks in NYC this last weekend, and it was FREEZING on Sunday... In APRIL!!)
5. Pretty sure I want to practice in DC, but didn't want to live on a student's budget there for 3 years.
6. Good impression from the ASW, which I talked about here:,103645.msg2665420.html#msg2665420

Someone in the Michigan vs. Duke thread talked about a bunch of parents at the ASW, but I only saw a couple, and I managed to talk to a couple dozen other 0Ls, none of whom had their folks with them.

Law School Admissions / Re: ITT: We advise BLAH on Duke vs. Cornell
« on: April 26, 2008, 12:22:09 PM »
In terms of placement into biglaw, the differences are marginal, especially since you don't know what or where you want to practice. Both are national schools with great reputations, going to either will open doors across the country. Ithaca is a more traditional college town, while Durham draws on the capital 20 miles away, and the traditional college town of Chapel Hill to the south, resulting in one of the highest concentrations of professional degrees in the country. If you're into winter sports, I'm told you can literally crosscountry ski to class in Ithaca. If you want 3 years of warmer weather, there's Duke. Neither would be a bad decision, but I am one of those people unconvinced by the academic/prestige/outcome differences between most of the T14.

PS: No offense taken, I'll be maintaining my allegiance to Pope Urban and Coach Billy for the next three years :)

Law School Admissions / Re: ITT: We advise BLAH on Duke vs. Cornell
« on: April 26, 2008, 12:03:46 PM »
I'm attempting to decide if I would go to duke over cornell... need advice and sound reasoning from you smart people based on the following assumptions:

1. I have no idea where/what I want to practice.
2. I'm not getting money either place.

Based on those assumptions, here is your conclusion:
1. Go to whichever place you like the best.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Any Information on JAG Corps.?
« on: April 25, 2008, 08:49:47 PM »
Figure I'll lend a hand, as I've been flirting with this idea many times in the last couple years, and have done my share of research on it.

Nice!  Do they have an age requirement?  What about the type of law school?  Are they as strict as Big LAw when it comes to law school rank?  What about grades and class rank?  IS there an ideal cutoff or stated requirement?  Do you have to go to boot camp?  Do you have a say where you are stationed?   Hmmm, I think that is it for now.  Hehehe, thanks!

The bolded are answered on AFJAG's website here:

I know that the Air Force and Navy have a shortened officer training course for "professional" officers. The Marines require you to pass their Basic Officer course at Quantico, same as every other officer. I think the situation is the same for the Army as well (though I can't quite remember).

I've been told that they are very serious about you being physically fit. The 4 branches only fill several hundred positions a year (I think there are 4000 JAG lawyers total), there is competition for those slots, and they want people qualified on all levels.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Men: Buying a suit...
« on: April 25, 2008, 08:35:40 PM »
*snaps* AK, *snaps*

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Michigan v. Duke
« on: April 25, 2008, 11:16:34 AM »
Duke's placement goes NY>DC>CA. If you went to the ASW you got that spreadsheet handout listing various placements, for 2007 grads, and for summer 2008 employment. The bottom line is Duke's placement is pretty sick, and if you're focus is out of the midwest you will compete anywhere (I think there were only about 7-8 2007 grads going to the midwest, including Chicago). If you want more data (firms' starting pay, clerkships), I posted an expanded version of the spreadsheet on this site.

Edit: that thread would be here:,103955.0.html

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Men: Buying a suit...
« on: April 25, 2008, 10:36:08 AM »
A few thoughts:

1) A cheap suit is insanely easy to pick out.

2) Black suits... eh.  Most first suits should be a solid navy.

3) Pinstripes are fine when tasteful

And the important thoughts:

1) For your first suit, don't go to Men's Wearhouse.  People make fun of people who go to Men's Wearhouse.  Go to J.A. Banks.  People will still be able to tell you're wearing "The Bank," but it is generally accepted as the preferred cheap suit.

2) For your first suit if you're not on a budget, go to Brooks Brothers.  Great suits for around six or seven hundred.

3) Past your first suit, try to observe the "Suit Cost Nadir."  That's the minimum you should spend on a suit, and it's $500.

Most of the rest of this thread is credited, though.

I'd suggest signing up for JA Banks email list. They have something or another on sale every week or so, and will have suits marked down in the 2-3 hundred dollar range.

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