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General Board / Re: Was BigLaw a Bubble?
« on: March 24, 2009, 12:41:40 PM »
Biglaw isn't a bubble of its own, it rides other bubbles.

Parts of it do.  Parts of it don't.

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3L job search / Re: Start date pushed back
« on: March 24, 2009, 11:38:58 AM »
My thoughts:

1. See if you can get some kind of forbearance on loan repayment.  Lenders don't want to see you default, so they may be willing to work something out with you.

2. Figure out your health care situation.  See if you can get continuing coverage through your school.

3. Try to get some kind of temporary work.  Whether you prioritize money or experience depends on your own financial situation.

4. Develop relationships with lawyers who might be able to help you out if things fall through completely with your law firm.  Doing this now will probably be easier than doing it when you have no job lined up (kind of like the conventional wisdom that it's easier to get a job when you already have a job).

Those are my thoughts.  Good luck to you.

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3L job search / Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
« on: March 24, 2009, 11:31:53 AM »
But to qualm my own insecurities, do you think if a YLS student got an offer revoked because of the economy, he/she would have much trouble finding a firm job in a secondary market (South Carolina, NC, Georgia, etc)?

I don't think you actually need to be worried about this, but I probably don't either and I am as well.  That said, I've found that a good way of dealing with my own insecurities is to start laying the groundwork for potential Plan B's.  A good strategy might be to figure out what firms are politically connected at the local level.  I would think that those would be the places most amenable to taking on ambitious YLS students.

Most probably don't even look at those outside the Vault 100.

Most probably don't realize that the Vault rankings go up to 100.

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3L job search / Re: Bummed out
« on: March 24, 2009, 11:14:41 AM »
Hiring entire classes of associates is not the model we are going to see for much longer.

I disagree, though I think it will become less common.

Though I agree with your points about people needing to become more proactive and resourceful, especially at the top schools.

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3L job search / Re: firstlawjob.com a godsend or a gimmick
« on: March 24, 2009, 08:23:31 AM »
Dudeman is just ignorant. I know 3Ls at YLS that are having trouble getting jobs ITE. Nothing to do with intelligence and everything to do with the economy.

Getting or holding on to?

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Law School Applications / Re: Chances at t-14
« on: March 24, 2009, 08:16:12 AM »
Well, I wouldn't say the OP is in the auto-reject zone, so it can't hurt!

A regular application couldn't hurt.  An ED application at CLS probably means passing up an ED application elsewhere.

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I don't regret it one bit.

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Law School Applications / Re: Chances at t-14
« on: March 23, 2009, 10:14:44 PM »
What exactly is a soft, if I may ask. And also, would a 3.4/ 172 be a splitter? what would a t-14 see in this kind of student.

Generally things that are not quantifiable.  Some soft factors are better than others, obviously (e.g. curing two different kinds of cancer beats having been rush chair at your fraternity).

3.4/172 may or may not be a splitter, but I would say yes.  And what they would see is someone who may or may not end up being a good law student.

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It should be noted though that this probably has something to do with the fact that Michigan's largest placement market probably  in part due to self selection is Chicago which has a lower ceiling on starting salaries than New York but also significantly lower cost of living.

I don't think the thing about Michigan's largest placement market being Chicago is quite right.  I'm pretty sure the thing about Chicago having a lower ceiling on starting salaries is wrong.

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Law School Applications / Re: Chances at t-14
« on: March 23, 2009, 12:25:59 PM »
I would hold off and apply very early next cycle.  If Columbia is your first choice, try applying ED.  I think you have a fine chance at all three, but make sure you apply in early October!

Sorry to say, but I think OP is slightly outside the window for CLS even with an ED application.

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