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Where should I go next fall? / Re: American WCL 1L Taking Questions
« on: November 14, 2007, 06:41:47 PM »
I see a number of accepts with 165 LSAT and low GPA

American really is not in a position to reject folks with that type LSAT if they want to keep their ranking up

I see 163  2.77 accepts etc



Like I said, soft factors are very important when you have a less than stellar GPA.  And I think WCL is comfortable with their admissions policy, considering they took less that 1% off the WL from last year!

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: American WCL 1L Taking Questions
« on: November 14, 2007, 04:27:55 PM »
Can you get me in?

Looking at your LSN, your GPA will be your major hitch.  IF you have good soft factors, like work experience and volunteerring, then you have a reasonable shot...best I can do champ!

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: American WCL 1L Taking Questions
« on: November 14, 2007, 02:41:05 PM »
Also - Tulane > American in NYC

I guess that's an easy argument to make without any relevant backing.  Tulane is ranked, umm....47th.  American is ranked, umm....47th.  American is the a top 5 law school in public interest and international law.  American places MUCH better than it's ranking would tend to suggest.  The low ranking, IMO, is due to lack of scholarship help to students, and that directly influencing some top-notch students to attend GW and GULC. 

My detailed employment sheet from your school is admittedly a year behind - so I will not use salary figures.

18% of our grads went NYC last year
(17.4% of our grads went NYC two years ago)
12.5% of your grades went NYC two years ago

In both cases, almost all that went appear to have (at least) BIGLAW market.  If you have the updated information please share.  These are based on the sheets issued by the respective CDO(CSO) offices.

That's fine...good stats there.  But here's something completely relevant that you fail to take into account.  Tulane is NOT in a major legal market, unlike WCL.  So of course Tulane grads are going to leave NO to head to NYC/LA/Chicago/DC.  Many/most WCL grads can stay in DC.  Inflated percentages there...

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: American WCL 1L Taking Questions
« on: November 14, 2007, 01:46:01 PM »
American had 50 students transfer out last year, more than almost any other law school. That is not a good sign.

Great stat!  Of course, you fail to mention WHERE they transfer to!  No, it's obvious that WCL is not a T14 school.  However, the few people that I know transfered all went UP.  I don't mind 50 students taking off from WCL to Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Georgetown, Cornell, etc.  If anything, that would be a good sign...

Lol, tag until after class - the mass exodus of the top 15% of your class is not a good thing (especially for a T50) - I will elaborate further then.

Feel free.  Why do people INSIST on bashing WCL?  This isn't aimed for you to take out a personal vendetta against WCL.  I started this post to answer questions for perspective applicants/students.  There are over 500 people at our school that are perfectly happy being there.  If you enjoy Tulane, then stop going out of your way to deminish WCL. 

And yes, I have NO PROBLEM with people leaving WCL for upward mobility.  You make it sound so concrete that it's the top 15% leaving, which I'm sure it's not.  Either way, it's not really that big of a deal.  People transfer from ANY 30-70 range school to get to a T25.  Act like this is unique to WCL...you're a joke

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: American WCL 1L Taking Questions
« on: November 14, 2007, 01:30:26 PM »
American had 50 students transfer out last year, more than almost any other law school. That is not a good sign.

Great stat!  Of course, you fail to mention WHERE they transfer to!  No, it's obvious that WCL is not a T14 school.  However, the few people that I know transfered all went UP.  I don't mind 50 students taking off from WCL to Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Georgetown, Cornell, etc.  If anything, that would be a good sign...

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: American WCL 1L Taking Questions
« on: November 14, 2007, 12:10:04 PM »
I have already submitted my application to American but I'm not sure I'm still interested in the school. Maybe you can change my mind! I would like to go into international law, so it's good to see that American is top 5 in that area.


1. Is American in a safe part of DC?
2. What kind of housing is available around campus? Any on campus housing?
3. What's your opinion on diversity at your school?
4. I see you've only been there 3 months but have you heard from 2/3Ls about the career services? Anything bad?
5. How good are the facilities? (Library, law library, class rooms, on campus eateries, etc)
6. Again, you've only been there 3 months but how's the curve?


1. Yes! American is in probably one of the safest areas in all of DC.  DC isn't bad, aside from the SE District that you will rarely ever venture to.  WCL is located, for all intents and purposes, in the Bethsda/Chevy Chase area.  It's away from all of the hustle and bustle of DC, and nestled in a really nice neighborhood.  Right behind the school is a neighbor, Tenley Park, which is very nice and charming.  Across from the school are some small shops and a STARBUCKS!  

2. I'm not absolutely sure about the on-campus housing, but it was never anything I was interested in.  Like I said in a previous post, there is an abundance of housing in the DC area.  Housing can be generally very expensive, but WCL has a housing conference in July that really helps you a) meet people for potential room-mates from the school and b) find a place to live.  Craigslist is pretty much the way to go.  Some people used realtors.  

There's just about anything you're looking for in DC, and it all depends on the price you're wanting to pay.  Parking is a commodity in DC, so if you're bringing a car, expect to pay a good dollar for it.  The school itself has a 3 level parking garage under the school, although it's not available to 1Ls unless you are PT.  Apartments are generally going to be more expensive than rental properties, but they have their obvious advantages in maintenance, utilities - etc.  If you're looking to save a bit of money on rent, then commuting in from Bethesda, MD or Alexandria, VA is your way to go.  You may be looking at about 45min-1hr of travel time, but the metros are clean and easily accessible going to and from the school (shuttle).    

3. Well, the diversity at WCL, and I'm sure any DC school, is quite high.  My section, which is approx. 100 students, is very diverse.  We have people from all walks of life, religion, origin, race, age, educational background, work background --- you name it.

4. I'm not sure if you're asking about the WCL Career Services Department or career placement coming from WCL.  From what I know of the OCPD (Office of Career and Professional Development), they are extremely helpful to get you out there, but like any law school, you need to have the resume to back yourself up.  As far as career placement; I know very few 3Ls, a few 2Ls, but about 10-15 alumnus of WCL.  Many of them work in Medium Sized Law Firms.  I know 2-3 that were in BIGLAW and decided to downsize to something more time-managable.

5. The facilities are pretty top-notch IMO.  The library is very nice, roomy, and plenty of space to get away to a quiet corner if you need it.  The classrooms are modernized, with mics set up to amplify when people around the room are talking.  I know SOME professors podcast or video record their lectures.  Some put them up, and some will send them to you if you request.  We have a very nice cafeteria on the 6th floor.  Every day there is pizza, salad bar, sandwich bar, ice cream...and a new entree every day.  I normally eat before I come to school, or I hit up the salad bar, but it all looks like above average cafeteria food.

6. The curve...well I can't give you a definitive answer about that.  I'm sure I'll let you know after finals in a month!

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: American WCL 1L Taking Questions
« on: November 14, 2007, 11:47:32 AM »
Also - Tulane > American in NYC

I guess that's an easy argument to make without any relevant backing.  Tulane is ranked, umm....47th.  American is ranked, umm....47th.  American is the a top 5 law school in public interest and international law.  American places MUCH better than it's ranking would tend to suggest.  The low ranking, IMO, is due to lack of scholarship help to students, and that directly influencing some top-notch students to attend GW and GULC. 

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Waiting Game
« on: November 14, 2007, 03:18:37 AM »
I actually get angry when I see something in my mail box or e-mail in-box and it's not from a law school. I get so excited when I see that I have a new message in my inbox only to find that its some stupid Borders coupon.

Just wait until the application process.  You life will have a piece of it missing when you're not stalking the mailbox waiting to see white envelopes!

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: American WCL 1L Taking Questions
« on: November 14, 2007, 03:13:00 AM »
This is an interesting thread.  My top 2 schools are American WCL and Tulane.  My interests are international law and sports law, so both schools really appeal to me for that reason (among many others).  Although, based on LSN I think I've got a better chance at American, I would be ecstatic to get into either school.

Now for the questions:

How pervasive are the liberal attitudes at WCL?  Coming from a school in Texas where the C in our name should stand for conservative instead of Christian I think this could be a culture shock.  By Texas standards, I'm pretty liberal, but nationally I'm very middle of the road.

I've never been to DC, so what is the area that American is in like?  Also, where do most people live while attending WCL?

I haven't done as much research on WCL as I have on some of my other schools because I feel that it I've got about a 50/50 shot at best at admission, so I'll wait until I hear something.  I'm sure I'll be able to think of more questions too.

Well if you're priority is international, then you really can't go wrong at WCL.  I'm not sure of our rank, but I think it's top 5 in int'l law.  I, however, am not at all interested in int'l politics. 

Liberal Attitude:  Not nearly as bad as I expected!  I'm a diehard Republican from the Midwest Bible Belt, so that was something of concern for me.  A LOT of students at WCL are "libertarian" and not left wing-liberals per se.  But again, I can't really say that I've felt an overly oppressing liberal vibe at WCL.  The professors hint towards their political affiliations, but again, it's not oppressive.

DC is an awesome, AWESOME city.  If you've never been, then you should really consider coming to visit the campus.  American University is in the NW side of the city, a couple miles from Dupont Circle.  It's in what you could call the "suburbs" of Washington, DC.  It's pretty far away from the tourist and government district.  The law school itself is about a 1/2 mile away from the main campus. 

Living in DC:  It just depends on your price range and what your commute will be like.  There are two major complaints about DC; 1) Expensive rent and 2) Parking is a nightmare.  I know a good majority of people that sold their cars and use mass transit.  There is a Red Line stop at Tenleytown/AU where you can catch a shuttle that takes you right to WCL.  That being said, most people try to base where they live around the Red Line, or the N8 bus that takes you right to school.  I'd say to look in the Glover Park, Van Ness, Clevenland Park and Woodley Park areas (anything off of Connecticut Ave).  Downtown is fine, but you'll have a pretty good metro ride to get to school.

Good luck in your application to WCL.  If you have any particularly specific questions, feel free to PM me!



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Where should I go next fall? / Re: American WCL 1L Taking Questions
« on: November 14, 2007, 02:33:39 AM »
The truth is that if I thought you were a troll, I wouldn't have bothered feed you.

He's a troll

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