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Quick question about placement-

You mentioned that it was harder for a boalt grad to get a firm job in the bay area than in nyc. I was wondering if you might know how well one needs to do at Boalt, as opposed to say, Columbia or Chicago, to get a job in the bay working for a prestigious firm such as MoFo or the like?

The reason why it's hard is not b/c of a lack of prestige.  There just aren't that many biglaw SF jobs in comparison to NY or LA.  A lot of the offices tend to be smaller size.  That's what makes it a tight market. 

Of course, if you're into IP and looking at Silicon Valley, it's not hard at all to get a job.

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Law School Applications / Re: How low is too low?
« on: May 06, 2008, 03:00:48 PM »

In referring to immigration and international focus, etc. - my UG degree is in Middle Eastern Studies, I speak Arabic, have worked with the population for some time and intend to continue that work as I go into law. It does not have to be immigration hands down, but that is where my past experience has been.

As far as my preference for UCLA - their faculty, specifically one professor of Islamic law, appeals greatly to me. As does the potential for earning a dual degree in their Near Eastern Languages & Cultures department.


If you think that you'll be a long shot but you're attracted to a particular school because of something like you mentioned, you could always have a separate personal statement that's narrowly tailored to that particular school explaining why you'd be a special asset.  And you could have a more gen'l PS w/ some of what you have in the tailored one to go to other schools.

UCLA's application actually has a specific (optional) portion where they ask how any part of your background might make you an asset to any of their programs.   

As you may be able to guess, I never applied so I didn't know that.  But for other schools w/o such an explicit option, it's still something to consider.

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Law School Applications / Re: How low is too low?
« on: May 06, 2008, 02:36:15 PM »

In referring to immigration and international focus, etc. - my UG degree is in Middle Eastern Studies, I speak Arabic, have worked with the population for some time and intend to continue that work as I go into law. It does not have to be immigration hands down, but that is where my past experience has been.

As far as my preference for UCLA - their faculty, specifically one professor of Islamic law, appeals greatly to me. As does the potential for earning a dual degree in their Near Eastern Languages & Cultures department.


If you think that you'll be a long shot but you're attracted to a particular school because of something like you mentioned, you could always have a separate personal statement that's narrowly tailored to that particular school explaining why you'd be a special asset.  And you could have a more gen'l PS w/ some of what you have in the tailored one to go to other schools.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: SFLSD: Our Lives Are Hard!
« on: May 03, 2008, 11:41:03 PM »

How's everyone hanging in there? I'm blowing fuses over torts memorization at the moment.

::officially sick of torts::

the library is still open?

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qmmm, how would you rate the importance of attending Crim for the incoming students?

Well, I suppose that's more a question of fact than gen'l rule.  So w/o knowing the prof., I'm not sure.  That being said; I can't believe how much time I wasted by actually attending lecture.

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Law Firms / Re: Importance of pre Law school Legal job?
« on: April 22, 2008, 07:38:35 PM »
if you're sure about law school:

patent agent gig > biotech >> random law office work.

Few law students will have biotech backgrounds and fewer still will have patent experience.  Lots of students will have some experience in a law office.

If you have experience as a patent agent before school, you're highly likely to have a choice 1L SA positions b/c you will be one of the few people who they could actually get some useful work out of over the summer.

Even if you're not looking towards patent prosecution after school, learning about the ins and outs of a patent is really crucial to patent litigation and patent/IP transactions.

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The general rules for the east bay is that: flat = $; hilly = $$$$.  Basically as you move from the west to east (bay towards the hills) things tend to get more expensive and the appearance of the neighborhoods tend to reflect it.


Thanks!

One of the things that I am having a hard time figuring out is safety. I have visited a lot of the areas around there, but its hard to know which areas are safe and which are dangerous at night. I am guessing Alameda, North Berkeley, Albany/El Cerrito and Emeryville are all pretty safe. What about areas like Temescal and other North Oakland areas? 

I think that Temescal is pretty safe, but Rockridge/Claremont would appear safer.  It goes along w/ the money comment above.  My totally unscientific memory can think of more 1Ls who live in Temescal than Rockridge.

As for those North Oakland neighborhoods:
Temescal:
+ cheaper
+ faster bus commute up Telegraph on the 1 or 1R
- a little rougher neighborhood

Rockridge/Claremont:
- pricier
- taking the 51 bus up College can be slow at times since it's a 2 lane road w/ stop signs and lots of students getting on and off as you get closer to campus
+ better night life
+ probably safer

There's also the Piedmont Neighborhood further down the 51 line, which is more like Rockridge than Temescal.


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Each of the neighborhoods has a different feel.  Even neighborhoods pretty close together can have very different vibes.  The best way to figure out what'll work for you is to come out and check out some of the neighborhoods if you can.  But here's a link that might be able to give you a hint what some of the bigger ones might be like or at least give you a start for a little digging. http://www.sfgate.com/traveler/guide/eastbay/neighborhoods/

Whether to live close to the law school really comes down to your willingness to either drive or utilize public transportation to get to class or go to fun events.  The buses do a pretty good job of covering the area, and you get a bus pass w/ your fees.  BART is always an option, but you'll have to pay for that.  Campus parking passes are insanely expensive.

The general rules for the east bay is that: flat = $; hilly = $$$$.  Basically as you move from the west to east (bay towards the hills) things tend to get more expensive and the appearance of the neighborhoods tend to reflect it.

South Berkeley tends to be the part of town that most resembles a classic college town.  North Berkeley and North Oakland tend to have older students who are willing to trade a bit of commuting convenience for a little bit less in rent.

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How's the brief going? Or was yours due last week?

It's due tomorrow, but I'm obviously slavishly working on it.  ;)

Actually, since I didn't go anywhere, I spent some quality time writing `the plain and unambiguous' language over and over and over and over....

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I was hoping to do a super long day and get down the big sur stretch but dh nixed the idea. Probably good. So yes, now the idea is down to santa cruz and monterey. Low cost ideas are appreciated. We'd like to see redwoods since we never have. There's some state parks down that way?

It's the opposite direction, but Muir Woods is only a 30-45 drive north of Berkeley into Marin County (which has it's own charms).

http://www.nps.gov/muwo/

Hi  :D

Hey, Goalie.  :)

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