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Professors use different combinations of the following aspects:
1. Theory. If the professor includes law review articles and theory pieces from journals, there's a good chance you will be expected to incorporate it into at least one answer.
2. Policy. 
3. Complete "Issue Spotter".  Identify every issue, argue both sides.  Set up a "tree" diagram, and follow each branch to its conclusion.
4. Issue Spotter/Argument.  Usually given a word or time limit -- argue only each sides best points and focus only on significant issues.  Don't get tied up in pointing out things that professors don't really want (or didn't even mean to make an "issue" in the question!)

The best way to tell if a professor wants 1 and 2 are to look at your syllabus and listen in class.  The best way to tell if a professor wants 3 and 4 is to work through a hypothetical and ask them to go over your answer with you.  ("So you didn't really want us to go into this issue?")

Not sure how helpful that was, but it's the strategy I used.

Professors always want policy.  On most exams you are going to have close calls on a test that requires a reasonableness standard, or policy factors.  If you ignore the policy aspect you're begging for a B or worse.  As far as my 1L classes have gone, a few professors have considered theory outside the scope of a 1L survey course.

Whoever talked about recent Supreme Court cases and outside reading from Law Review articles; stop wasting your time gunner, you aren't impressing anyone.

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Current Law Students / Re: wtf con law
« on: February 12, 2008, 06:21:09 PM »
Has anyone used the E&E for con law? Is it any good?

I am having a hard time especially since my professor just talks about his love of the justices and not so much the cases that we read.

Use the Chemerinsky for Con Law.  As far as I know the Dressler for Crim Law, Glannon E&E for Civ Pro, and Chemerinsky for Con Law are the best 1L study aids.

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Transferring / Re: top 5% at UT to where???
« on: February 11, 2008, 02:45:22 PM »
You probably have a shot anywhere up through the T6, and it's probably worth putting in applications to the top 3 schools as well.  As far as I know there are only two decent schools that are virtually impossible to get into as a transfer.  UNC (they prefer residents, and only take a couple) and BU (you could probably get in, but they take very few).  Stanford has a reputation of being impossible to transfer into, but they took 12 two years ago with no one leaving, so it's not like they're Princeton Undergrad.

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Current Law Students / Re: Hours of studying???
« on: February 07, 2008, 05:05:17 PM »
An hour during my lunch break.  Probably not a great thing, but I have Glannon and Chemerinsky to guide me through.

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Online Law Schools / Re: NOVUS LAW SCHOOL?
« on: February 04, 2008, 03:02:59 AM »
Novus is legit just like ALU and other online distance schools this is how foreigners get their Degree to practice medicine in the US it seems a lot of you really need to go back and study the law on state and federal. First I have enroll in novus base on others I have known who have use this alternative method. Schools like Novus and others get a bad name b/c of of Major schools dont want the competition but change is coming many our getting their degree online. Once I finished Novus I will be attending Georgetown for 1 year then I will be elgible for the state bar. Some out jealous b/c they spent a fortune on law school and did not seek and another route. What made me persue a law degree was real estate and my personal experience with the justice system. i beat a high power attorney in my brothers case which they chose not to show up and the judge ask my brother who help him is a very talentive lawyer but it was me little old me. Many others are seeking their degrees online.  www.lawschoolbible.com is another great source. Why should any one respond to you guys when you are so negative. and not supportive just b/c you are going to be an attorney or what ever you persue will not make you rich. I want to be one so I can help others learn by helping others you will be bless in return. When the King of the Mountain see competition their react scared because they obtain everything  by pertending to be someone and when change come they dont now how to adapt they slowly burn out and try to bring others down with them.

I will keep you all updated on my progress save my email hakeemrahshad@hotmail.com

Make sure to bump when you start at GULC.

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Transferring / Re: Where is it worth transferring?
« on: January 29, 2008, 06:23:05 PM »
You can probably get in anywhere, but like the above poster said, unless you want to get into serious academia, there's no reason to transfer.  You'll be highly sought after and get a market paying job at a great firm easily.

With that being said, I would probably apply to Harvard and Yale since those schools give you so much prestige just by being on your resume.

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Current Law Students / Re: Slackers unite?
« on: January 07, 2008, 12:00:17 PM »
I think I'm the ultimate law school slacker.  I did not outline.  I read most of my cases, but immediately forgot about them after class.  I did not brief the cases.  I printed off outlines from 3 years ago a few days before the finals, and studied almost exclusively from that.  I read the E&E's for my classes and Dressler (for Crim Law) the night before the exam.

Just found out I got the high grade in my Crim Law class of about 50-60 people.  Now, I don't know where I'll be in the other classes, and its conceivable that I'll get all B's in the other classes, but come on man!  Being a slacker and getting good grades is not impossible.

EDIT:  It was a closed book/closed note exam by the way.

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Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Election Law?
« on: December 11, 2007, 11:18:51 PM »
Thank you for your responses!

It seems that if I want to do election law, I'll have to consider going to a school lower in the rankings...interesting. Is this a tradeoff I should make? I keep hearing that law school is about going to the best schools possible. Rokomotion, you mentioned applying to OSU as a backup, perhaps I'll do that.

I wonder why more schools don't offer courses in this, especially after Bush v. Gore. Another thought I had is to contact the schools directly and just ask if they have an election law program. Is that an obnoxious question to ask the schools? Still new at this, I'm not quite sure what questions are appropriate.



No, that's uninteresting and false.  Don't worry about specialty programs and rankings, just go to the best school for you.  Maybe you won't get to study Election Law in Law School, but you are going to have much more job opportunities in this area after law school if you went to NYU than you would with an Election Law Certificate from Ohio State.

This isn't undergrad, don't follow a specific program.

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Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Is UW-Madison a "public ivy"
« on: December 10, 2007, 10:46:55 PM »
poor trizkutt.  why don't you get into an actually presitigious undergrad?  wisco is great, but not prestigious by any means.

tttriscuit is what happens when you have to transfer into your top choice undergrad.  The one or two years he spent at UW-platsville, or wherever, seems to have seriously F-ed with his mind/self-confidence/ability to subtly flame. 

Not fair to transfers.  My ex-girlfriend got accepted to Madison, but was scared of the city and went to another UW, she then transferred to Madison after a year.  I transferred to Madison because coming out of high school I thought I wanted to go to a Liberal Arts College (HA!) and never even applied (would have gotten in).  It's definitely too easy to transfer from UW System schools, but just don't judge all transfers by this guy.  We weren't all jealous strivers determined to get into a school we think is so incredible that we go around to message boards trying to convince people it's better than Michigan, Virginia, and Berkeley.

I'm curious to know what she was scared of? I mean it can be a little intimidating with the size. Was it the atmosphere? Ie too wild for her?

Basically she wasn't looking where she was going and almost got run over by a bus.  It's definitely strange since she grew up in a suburb of Milwaukee, but I guess living in a downtown atmosphere could be a little new.  I didn't know her at the time, but she's not always the most rational person about major life decisions.

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Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Is UW-Madison a "public ivy"
« on: December 10, 2007, 05:14:15 PM »
poor trizkutt.  why don't you get into an actually presitigious undergrad?  wisco is great, but not prestigious by any means.

tttriscuit is what happens when you have to transfer into your top choice undergrad.  The one or two years he spent at UW-platsville, or wherever, seems to have seriously F-ed with his mind/self-confidence/ability to subtly flame. 

Not fair to transfers.  My ex-girlfriend got accepted to Madison, but was scared of the city and went to another UW, she then transferred to Madison after a year.  I transferred to Madison because coming out of high school I thought I wanted to go to a Liberal Arts College (HA!) and never even applied (would have gotten in).  It's definitely too easy to transfer from UW System schools, but just don't judge all transfers by this guy.  We weren't all jealous strivers determined to get into a school we think is so incredible that we go around to message boards trying to convince people it's better than Michigan, Virginia, and Berkeley.

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