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Transferring / Re: My Story
« on: May 18, 2008, 06:34:32 AM »
LOL, T15.  Just say UCLA.

LOL. Great call. :D

perhaps, but OP says the facts are intentionally left vague - could just be fukin around...

But you can also see how an employer would be less likely to go out on a limb for a UCLA student than for one at Georgetown or Cornell.  Fair or not, the T14 has a prestige that no other school does.

Current Law Students / Re: Which law dictionary do you recommend?
« on: May 16, 2008, 11:39:56 PM »
Get Black's pocket edition unless you do all your reading with a computer with internet handy.  You probably won't use it much, but it's cheap.  Don't get anything else. Black's is the standard.

Most terms will be explained or their meanings picked up from context, but not always. I once saw a professor ask a student to explain a new term in a case.  The student couldn't, and the professor chastised him for not having looked it up before class.  (I'm sure the whole class was googling it and IM-ing him the defniition as soon as it became clear he didn't know, but it was too late.)

I swear you people are so high strung.  Who cares if you don't look up a term before class?  I saw this happen once or twice in all of 1L.  And even if you are the poor sap that is called on, what happens if you can't answer?  NOTHING!  Grading is blind and based on final exams.  Socratic method is the last thing you should ever worry about.

Transferring / Re: My Story
« on: May 16, 2008, 09:59:26 AM »
LOL, T15.  Just say UCLA.

Current Law Students / Re: Mostly A's...How much will a C hurt?
« on: May 15, 2008, 05:07:44 PM »
This is why I'm never taking anything like Federal Courts or Tax in law school.

Current Law Students / Re: DONE WITH 1L!!
« on: May 14, 2008, 08:42:55 PM »
Psh, I finished Turow's book months ago.



I think I'm going to read it now that I'm done with 1L and laugh at all the douches.

Transferring / Re: West coast advantage?
« on: May 12, 2008, 01:20:34 AM »
The effect of GULC on your job prospects probably isn't very much because to make that transfer you have to have above average grades at UCLA.  That means you will have plenty of good opportunities without transferring.  On the other hand, I imagine that Penn would have a substantial effect on your post-graduation opportunities, particularly on the East Coast.

Just to put it in perspective... UF transfers average at about top 8% of their class.

UF is a state-school ranked near 50. They take few transfers as their pool of applicants is comparatively weak and they get little economic benefit from them.

My point is it is tough to transfer anywhere. You really need to be top 10% before you even start thinking about it.

I am hearing now that GW/WUSTL take top 20% though, and they are top 20 schools? Are they the exception, or is that information I have innacurate?

Don't listen to that person, they don't know what they're talking about.  The accepted wisdom is that lateral transfers generally require you to be slightly above the median.  The reason a school like Florida has stats like that is because it's not a destination for many successful T2 students.  Good T2 students either set their sights much higher, or are satisfied with their own school.  That means Florida is selecting from T3/T4 students and for obvious reasons they only want the very best from those schools.

Current Law Students / Re: How can you stand out?
« on: May 05, 2008, 01:26:01 AM »
Completely agree with the post above me.  My Property exam had one hypo that was take home, and then we would come take the rest of the exam at the designated exam time, and you wouldn't believe the questions people were asking about the take-home portion.  "Should we come up with a definite answer?" and stuff like that.  Trace every possible contingency.  And even when a one particular branch of a test is not triggered, if there is any ambiguity at all you need to talk about that.  You need to say , e.g., "One more important thing to note is that while it is unlikely that the court would interpret A in such and such a way, if it does, then...."  Also notice how that sentence is different than just vomiting information on the page.  It DOES relate to the case at hand if there is an unlikely interpretation.  Simply writing down every irrelevant fact is probably going to hurt an exam more than it will help it.

Current Law Students / Re: How can you stand out?
« on: May 04, 2008, 08:57:35 PM »
Does it occur as often in the T14?  Most of those students have worked hard during their entire academic careers.  It would make sense that, like trains, they wouldn't stop at a stop that wasn't a final one.  They would keep plugging and chugging.

Maybe working hard is relative... but a lot of people at the T14 are just plain smart and have never had to work hard for their grades.  Those people are used to putting most of their time and effort into extracurriculars and just do that again in law school.  Some of the people who have worked hard for 15 years are tired and burned out.  Some people are nurturing their nascent alcoholism.  But most of us realize that grades aren't correlative with time spent in a library.

15 years?

What percentage of your school would you say is gunning for top-dog status, rather than any firm job?  I mean, all out, all out.

Probably 15% of my class is explicitly gunning for the top.  Then there's people like me who don't let anyone know how important grades are to them.  It's hard to tell.  I've deleted posts on my facebook wall from relatives congratulating me on a CALI award because I didn't want a classmate to see it.

Current Law Students / Re: Taking notes in law school
« on: May 04, 2008, 08:53:16 PM »
I use a pen and paper.  Honestly, there's not that much you need to write down from class discussion.  If you're going over the black letter law, you might as well fall asleep because that's all going to be in an E&E which won't explain the rule incorrectly (which professors DO do occasionally).  Just write down stuff that is unique that the prof says.  Policy stuff, or if you are in a Con Law class and have a prof who's interest is Federal Indian Law, then obviously make sure you know everything he wants you to know about that.

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