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Transferring / Re: GULC w/ 10k grant or NYU/Columbia w/o grant?
« on: July 31, 2009, 06:45:46 AM »
I don't go to any of the three law schools (went to a T20 school but have friends at all of them).  I still think there is a difference in the quality of the students.  I know not all upper level classes use the socratic method (although the vast majority do), but I still think that the education is better.  And, even if not, the employment opportunities are significantly better at Columbia than G-town. 

Transferring / Re: GULC w/ 10k grant or NYU/Columbia w/o grant?
« on: July 30, 2009, 12:33:23 PM »
I agree that Columbia is probably the best overall choice and is likely worth the money (if you are not too worried about the extra debt in the long-term). It has great legal prestige and excellent lay prestige (which people should not completely discount). Better in both regards than NYU and G-Town. However, don't listen to the guy talking about getting the "best legal education." The actual education will be very similar at all three (good profs and smart students). The places where you would likely learn the "most" and have the most accessible profs. are not the top law schools (where they focus mostly on their research and teaching is something they love but that is secondary). You have only good options here!

not true, columbia and nyu have smarter students, which pays off in terms of whatever you actually get out of the socratic approach. 

Current Law Students / Re: Critique my brief
« on: July 30, 2009, 07:09:01 AM »
Thanks for all of the great advice.  I have one question- how are we, as beginning students in the law, actually supposed to be able to figure out why the law was included?  To me, all I see in this case is that airplanes aren't considered motor vehicles.  Is that really the big picture I am supposed to get out of this case?

Probably all you are supposed to get out of it.  One thing you will learn is that sometimes in law school you need to take things at face value.  Cases often only provide you with insight like that.  That simple.  The only logic/analysis you will have to do is when your prof gives you an exam and you have to decide whether a blimp (or something like that) is closer to how they define a motor vehicle or closer to how they define airplanes.  The case could be as simple as that.

Dont stress law school.  Most people graduate (at least at the respectable schools) and most people get jobs after, and I assume most people are able to pay back their loans when they are done.

Enjoy yourself and try not to be too worried about the whole thing.  Very few people know what to do in law school when they first start (I had no clue how to brief, how to outline, or really what we would do in class).  Before you start, watch Paper Chase, get scared, then go to school and realize that its not scary and its not difficult and you aren't the only one that is learning as you go.

Transferring / Re: GULC w/ 10k grant or NYU/Columbia w/o grant?
« on: July 30, 2009, 07:02:47 AM »
I was recently admitted to GULC with a grant of 10k per year.  I am still waiting to hear from NYU and Columbia.  On the off chance I get admitted to either in the next few weeks, what do you think would be the better option.  I doubt NYU or Columbia will provide any money so the decision will come down to 10K with GULC or no money and NYU/Columbia. 

I would chose NYU or Columbia over G-town in a second...  Even if I had a full ride to G-town.  Its a great school, but it is certainly a step below the others.  Money comes and goes, there is something to be said for getting the best education available. 

Bar Exam Preparation / Re: Failing the Bar: Your First Impression
« on: July 30, 2009, 06:59:11 AM »
What's your first impression?

It happens.  My first impression is I feel bad for them having to go through it all over again.  That is about the extent of my reaction. 

Current Law Students / Re: To everyone taking the bar tomorrow…
« on: July 29, 2009, 09:16:43 AM »
man that was brutal we started at 7Am and finshed at 6PM. BRUTAL

what state is that?  Sounds miserable.

Ugh, 3 hours left...

Current Law Students / Re: Question for 2l and 3L
« on: July 28, 2009, 03:26:46 PM »
Dont buy supplements.  Dont.  There is no need for it.  I purchased two throughout all of law school.  One was the wrong supplement (waste of money as a result) and the other was written by my professor (and I only used that for the exam).


1) supplements: dont buy
2) casebooks: buy lightly highlighted if you can find them.  I didnt get used books too often cause I have to highlight myself as I read to keep my attention, but in the end I bought used books and didnt have any problems with them.  I just find ones highlighted by someone pretty conservative.

Current Law Students / Re: To everyone taking the bar tomorrow…
« on: July 28, 2009, 02:52:46 PM »
Congrats on being 1/3 (boo california, so glad I am not doing that) or 1/2 of the way done!

Current Law Students / Re: To everyone taking the bar tomorrow…
« on: July 27, 2009, 03:58:42 PM »
thanks Matthies! good luck to you too!

I wont find out till mid to late November, although I get a feeling I will know the answer after tomorrow.  Dumb new york essay day.  Good luck to you as well!

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