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UDC is public interest driven.  I met a lot of public defenders while working at the court in D.C., and a good many were UDC grads. However, it places only in D.C. and then, only in a special niche of D.C. it seems.

for what it's worth, when I worked in D.C. last summer, I met 4-5 UDC students. They were not very happy people and had nothing good to say about most of their professors.

There are a few professors that are, allegedly, blatantly biased towards other students, and the dean looks the other way because those professors are a bit more noteworthy than the rest.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Tough Decision: Tulsa v. SLU
« on: March 23, 2009, 11:08:24 AM »
If you're from St. Louis, go to SLU (again pending money).
Something that hasn't been said, yet, is family connections. You'll be amazed at how some of your network develops.

Case in point, my uncle works in a grocery store, but he has a customer he befriended who is a partner at Thomas Coburn and teaches at SLU.
[I know I've used this example before]

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: St. Louis Status
« on: February 19, 2009, 01:49:25 PM »
if you're not from the area, employers may look upon you with raised eyebrows.

As the others have said, SLU is regional.  If you went to high school in IL, have you tried Urbana?


Thanks, that was helpful.  I've been out of school for 4 years, but I know I'm not a great studier.  I plan to treat my education like my job (generally 9-6 with the occasional overtime), and I think that will be about right.

That's a good approach. Just realize the job is probably more like "retail" work. Because, come the holiday season, you've got "black out" dates where you probably should expect to work long hours.

in terms of upper level courses, it's not atypical to have the middle of the day completely bereft of any classes. My class schedule this semester was in the morning but some of my class mates literally had 6-8 hours in between their morning and evening class. Next semester I have a clinic so If I remember, I can give you some insight into that later.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: lower rank better reputation?
« on: December 15, 2008, 08:13:41 PM »
the only large public university in STL is UMSL?

Law School Admissions / Re: good safetys needed
« on: December 14, 2008, 10:16:59 PM »
I would say that it would depend on what region you are looking for.  In the metro NY area, with those scores, Rutgers and Seton Hall might be good schools for you.  But - you should always make sure that there are schools you WOULD feel comfortable attending.  School is out in most places now but go visit their career planning centers and get statistics on where students go on graduation and see if that fits with your career goals.  Then, come the end of January, sit on a class and see if it is a place where you would be happy for three years!

Alisa Greenstein | Veritas Prep Admissions Consultant | 

I hate to say it, but you are not exactly advertising your services well. That's terrible advice you just gave.

#1. Don't apply to a safety that is not near where you want to practice. If at all possible, don't apply to a low ranked school in a saturated market like NYC (unless you are dead set on practicing there and can't go to a high ranked school).

#2. Don't go to a schools career services office in hopes of getting accurate career placement information. They WILL blow sunshine up your netheregions.

#3. Don't go to a school because you sit in a classroom and get a good vibe. Your first priority should be geographic in the case of low ranked schools (which should cut you down to 1-2) or placement in the case of high ranked schools. If there are two regional schools, ask around about which one is better regarded (may not always be the one USNEWS says is best, but be careful of the people who think their local 4th tier school is a close second to Harvard)

#4. In the event your geographic preference is weak or non existent, pick a growing city without a ton of lawyers or law schools for safety apps. Denver (CU/DU) and Houston (UH) come to mind, but there are others.

Your personal situation is going to all depend on the lsat. URM admissions is a crapshoot.  With a 160 or above, spam all the top schools (assuming you have no commitments that mandate staying in a certain city).   155-160, throw your hat into the ring with some schools ranked between 10-25, but expect that you may end up at your regional safety. Below a 155, just hope to get into a school in a market you want to practice in. 


Choosing the Right Law School / Re: lower rank better reputation?
« on: December 13, 2008, 10:57:45 PM »
make a connection. if anything you can ask to meet with them in a more one-on-one setting to ask more and hopefully they will like you and tell you to send in an app. then come OCI or whatever, you can put these 5 words in your cover letter that will at least get you an interview "[X] recommended I write to you"

as mentioned, it shouldn't be any more difficult. I know that there were a few firms at OCI that had Philly offices. While they weren't recruiting for them specifically (probably because they figured people would want to be in DC or NYC), if you mentioned it and your ties, I'm sure they would jump at the chance.

and Carol Towing reference as a signature? Shouldn't you have something UCC related in there now? or maybe the Rule Against Perpetuities?

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: UMKC or SLU?
« on: December 12, 2008, 12:04:43 AM »
your GPA is fine. You may want to rethink taking the LSAT if you're shooting for mizzou.
Regarding Stl from KC, I'm not quite sure how that would affect public interest, but in general, it's good to go to school in the area you want to practice in, if only for the connections and networking.

I'm not familiar with SLU's clinics, but I'm sure they provide a great opportunity to meet practicing attorneys in the field you might be interested in...
though a 45 minute commute does sound pretty awful...

But if you can grab a hefty scholarship, and don't mind calling up and networking with people while you're visiting home, then go to UMKC.

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