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Current Law Students / Re: private law loans
« on: May 21, 2007, 10:18:35 AM »
It'll be a little bit more before I start school because I'm saving everything I can right now. I keep telling myself I did it as an undergraduate, I can do it again. However, I've also mentioned to people that if they're buying me gifts for any holidays/birthdays, I'll take gift cards to buy necessities.

My fear is that I'll have to turn to credit cards. My boyfriend graduated from law school with an astronomical amount of credit card debt.

Current Law Students / Re: private law loans
« on: May 20, 2007, 10:50:56 PM »
If you think that's bad, try $4,100 for the whole year. I'm working as long as I can at my present job so I can squirrel away a little more for the year. I have no idea how I'm going to do this....

Transferring / Re: New UNC transfer policy
« on: May 15, 2007, 12:55:48 PM »
Am I correct to understand that this means that they will not consider transfers who are not NC residents attending school outside of NC?

The UNC School of Law will continue to offer a very limited number of
transfer opportunities to academically qualified residents of North
attending law schools outside of North Carolina...

Sort of...(see the last sentence of the second paragraph).  Its basically the same policy for everyone else as it originally was, ie) must have high first year applicatant credentials.  Like the poster a couple up noted, it really affects students in NC law schools.

....which might be decent news for me.  I'm actaully an NC resident who is out of state for law school trying to go back to NC as a transfer next fall. 

But I'm still not sure how to interpret the last sentence of the second paragraph; does this mean if I have a compelling reason to transfer and I am in an out of state law school and I have competitive 1L grades, I therefore do not need to have been originally admissible (per the third paragraph)?

Translated: If you can't go on to 2L where you are, don't waste your time. I believe originally admissable refers to any prereqs they have for soon-to-be 1Ls.

Law School Admissions / Re: Rejections from Law Schools
« on: April 10, 2007, 08:35:56 AM »
Cooley may be your best shot and you can actually determine your acceptance before you apply. The school publishes the formula used to determine admittance. If you meet the formula, you're automatically in.

It's also very simple math for the numerically impaired, such as myself.

Transferring / Re: ranking question
« on: April 10, 2007, 08:31:58 AM »
As far as I know, they will say I'm in the top 25%.  :-[

If my grades stay the same do I have a chance at mid T2's? I am looking to go back to the northeast, Rutgers, Temple, Villanova for example.

I start this fall but already have planned to apply for a transfer to those same schools, add Widener though. Let me know how it goes. It sounds selfish but at least I'll have some idea of what my goal is.

None of my classmates have gotten pregnant this year (that I know of) but plenty wives have given birth. You learn to make due I suppose but it sounds as if fiancee wants to stay home wih the kids and not work. I'd suggest a reality check with numbers to show her the financial hardship if she wants to go that route. Maybe she'll come around and see the practical investment that is a license to practice law.

Wow! Sounds like you have a story for a personal statement. Wish I had accomplishments like those....

Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Re: NonTrad 1L Survival Tips?
« on: January 26, 2008, 12:03:16 AM »
Non-trad survival tips

10. Forget everything you know about reading and studying from undergrad - this is a whole new ballgame.
9. If you have children, make certain you have solid childcare arrangements and a backup for weekends. Law school professors don't care about your personal life.
8. Stick to a schedule, especially a sleep schedule and try to eat correctly. Get exercise when you can and allow yourself a couple hours each day for yourself, or for you and your family.
7. Sock away as much extra money as you can because the real world cannot distinguish between the income level of a law student (usually living below poverty line) and an attorney in private practice.
6. Do not lose touch with your non-lawschool friends. If there are major catastrophes in their lives, those catastrophes can be turned into practice hypos later.
5. Accept the fact you will learn legalese but remember to speak English with the non-legal world.
4. Your thinking will change but don't fight it. It's natural and eventually you won't remember how you thought before.
3. At least some of your classmates are very young and coming to law school directly from college. Younger law students have a different yardstick for measuring success = grades+class rank+academic honors. They will endlessly obsess over it. Walk away when it gets to be too much. Same advice for upperclassmen who enjoy frightening 1Ls with horror stories.
2. Keep your eye on the prize - it's a marathon, not a sprint. You can't treat it like a 9-to-5 job or you will find yourself on the academic probation train, or worse. You are most likely being graded on a curve so it's no longer an objective standard. You can work very hard and still end up with a B average. Get used to it.
1. You are not stupid. If you were not bright you would not be in law school. No matter how brilliant the answers from your classmates seem, everyone is on the same page.

(Compiled from observation and advice from practicing attorneys; law school professors; and humane 2Ls and 3Ls.

49 least for the first semester. Most people don't arrive at law school and know how to read cases. Even if you aren't worried about your grades, it will still take you nearly the entire semester to learn how to read cases. I'm sure some people will tell you to use commercial study guides for the substantive law but it is important to learn how to read and pull apart cases.

The people I know who treated it like a 9-to-5 job are either on academic probation or just above academic probation this semester. You learn a lot first semester, and not just law, but it gets a little easier second semester. I don't know any full-time law student who has been able to lead a normal life. Even most lawyers will tell you it's impossible for the first year.

That's just my two cents.

Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Re: NonTrad 1L Survival Tips?
« on: December 27, 2007, 07:04:48 AM »
Been there myself last semester. It was tough enough at first getting back into the swing of doing schoolwork plus the added stress of reciting in class. Thursdays and Fridays were when the students went out to the local pub to knock back a in the world they managed to go to Friday classes is beyond me. Anyway, I don't know how old you are but you should be able to find something to do locally. Volunteering is one way to get out, especially if it's not law related. Some of the other non-trads might do stuff. Toward the end of the semester I found a few upperclass nontrads with who I shared some of the same non-academic interests so we've been hanging out more.

Don't sequester yourself in a box though. It's bad news.

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