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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: depaul/kent/loyola roll call
« on: April 12, 2007, 12:08:00 PM »
Interesting about the bed bugs-- I toured and it seemed really nice. Given, they control what I see.

For the location, the commute is what you make of it. At the ASW the school stressed that it works for commuters due to the proximity to the El and Union Station. Current students said the difference is whether you're studying before class in your apartment or on the commute.

For me, I'm used to being able to walk to class/anything I want (although out of laziness I drive), so I can imagine I'd want to live as close as possible to my future law school the first year. If I choose Chicagoland- I'd definitely move out toward Lincoln Park after 1L.

I was at the ASW also. Did you partake in the friday night activities? If so, what was it like?

If you're going to Kent out in West Loop, I'd consider the Wicker Park/Bucktown area.  It's just northwest of downtown, right off the Blue Line L, and packed with restaurants, bars and shops.  Lincoln Park is overpriced, and Lakeview will still be quite a commute.  Also, another thing to consider, northbound Brown and Red L lines are under construction for the next two years, making the commute to Lincoln Park and Lakeview exceedingly long.  I live in Lincoln Park right now, and avoid the L headaches by leaving work late after rush over is over.  Something to consider.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Notre Dame 3L taking questions
« on: April 12, 2007, 11:19:06 AM »
Do you know of a lot of people who were admitted off of the provisional list?  About how many can expect to get acceptances this summer?  Also, how far into the summer does ND go before notifying applicants of their status on the Provisional List?


Choosing the Right Law School / Re: T1 v T2
« on: April 11, 2007, 02:37:44 PM »

T83= graphing calculator, but still really really cool, cause you can play games and stuff.... (sorry, i majored in math and am a loser)

I lol'ed...

<===had ghetto-ass TI-82

lol, you missed out

It was all about Drugwars.

Classic game.  Z-cart did it for me.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: T1 v T2
« on: April 11, 2007, 02:35:15 PM »
How do you know which schools are T1 and which are T2? I'm trying to decide between Indiana Bloomington and Kansas. Kansas is a third of Indiana's cost.

T1 = top 50 according USNWR

Unless you want to practice in Kansas, I'd pick Bloomington.

But if I pick Bloomington am I stuck in Indy? Or will Bloomington open more doors? Phrasing it as T1 and T2 does make IU-B sound more appealing.

It all depends on the market where you're going to practice.  I saw from your other thread that you want to practice in Kansas City.  It's probably pretty safe to say that you won't have any regrets going to KU if that's the case.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: T1 v T2
« on: April 11, 2007, 01:16:57 PM »

not-so-subtle southside troll

Troll?  I take offense.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: T1 v T2
« on: April 11, 2007, 01:10:02 PM »
I can give you my personal experience, working in a complex-litigation boutique firm in Chicago.  From all the attorneys I've talked to, there is a hierarchy of schools that extends beyond the top 14.  Here's how I'd say our firm recruits and hires:
1. Chicago
2. Northwestern and other T-14's
3. Illinois/Notre Dame/Wash U/Other Top 35 schools (Top 50% of class)
4. Loyola Chicago (and you better be top 10% and on some journals)
Our firm doesn't hire Kent, DePaul, or really any other school below rank 40

I think a Tier 2 with an extensive network in a market is an asset, but if you can get your foot in the door from a Tier 1, you still have a better shot at a BIGLAW job.  I don't speak for all firms, just the one I work for.

Law School Admissions / Re: Withdraw!
« on: April 11, 2007, 10:22:30 AM »
I withdrew from DePaul over two weeks ago, and Iowa on Monday.

No idea what your numbers are, but someone who is your "numbers twin" got into GULC.  I think your problem is probably not your numbers but the fact that you applied almost too late to be competitive at the T14.

Why do you want to go T14?  What are your goals that can't be accomplished at one of your currently accepted schools?

All I want is a fair degree of certainty that I can get a market paying job in my home market (CA/LA...a competitive market), or DC.  This is nearly impossible to *guarantee* (the only exceptions possibly being YSH), but it becomes significantly more likely from a T14, especially CCNMVP.

You probably should have applied to California schools this cycle, but I wouldn't fret that much.  I saw from your LSN that you got accepted to W&L.  If you want DC placement, that would be a good bet.  Wash U is a great school as well.  Hopefully, Wash U students can post to give you a good idea of their placement numbers on the coasts, I am unsure.  I wouldn't discount the Chicago legal market though, the second biggest in the US.  Starting salaries out here at BIGLAW are $125,000.  That will take you a lot further in Chicago than similar numbers in DC or California because of relatively low cost of living.  The hours also tend to be less than DC, NY and LA BIGLAW firms tend to demand.  Also, another option could be to take the Wash U scholarship, work in Chicago for two years, and then move wherever you want to go.  That's how many lawyers in the firm I work in ended up in Chicago from more regional schools like UNC and Tulane.

I definitely wouldn't be discouraged though.  T-14 is not worth turning down a full ride at T-20.  Debt free with plenty of options is a great place to be.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: University of!
« on: April 10, 2007, 08:16:04 PM »
Illinois is one of my top 2 schools.  I got deferred, but I feel cautiously optimistic on an acceptance.

First off, UIUC has fantastic placement in Chicago.  In terms of prestige in the city, it's right behind UChicago and Northwestern.  They have a vast alumni network that encompasses nearly every firm in the city.  I'm not sure how far UIUC will carry you outside of Chicago, but I do know that it is very well regarded in the Midwest, and has sent a fair amount of grads to NY and DC. 

In terms of the social life, Champaign-Urbana is actually a fun town.  It has a surprisingly vibrant music scene, and good bars.  However, the law school population is tiny compared with the throngs of undergrads.  This will be the case at any state school though.

Cost of living is also very cheap, and Big Ten sports are a plus.

Illinois is an outstanding law school.  I wouldn't be worried.

I'm relatively new to LSD, but I think Regent's University Law School is deserving of some hate.  Pat Robertson's Tier 4 law school has placed 150 in the federal government since Bush was inaugurated.  I doubt T14's have a better rate of placement.

The current attorney pleading the fifth amendment in the attorney firings investigations is also a Regent's grad.

I guess all those wanting to be conservative hack attorneys schilling for Karl Rove have great options at Regent's though, if that's your thing.

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