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Where should I go next fall? / Re: HELP!! Chicago-Kent vs. American
« on: May 02, 2007, 03:09:31 PM »
Regarding the Chicago job market, it is the second biggest legal market in the country after New York.  Kent does well placing grads in firms, although there is a lot of competition from local schools like U of C, NU, UIUC and Loyola.  Salaries are high at the big firms coming out of law school, and cost of living here is cheap relative to DC or NY.  If you don't mind moving, and want to work in a firm, Kent is a great option.  However, if you're serious about wanting to stay out east and working in international/government law, American has the definite advantage.  Also, Kent really isn't that portable outside of Chicago/Midwest.  That also should be something to consider.

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I got an email from Illinois saying I was on the "Priority Waiting List."  I'm not sure what that entails though.  Is it just a nice way to say "waiting list?" or are there two different lists?

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: BC vs. Loyola Chicago ($$)
« on: April 25, 2007, 01:27:02 PM »
Decision made.  It's BC.  I'm withdrawing from Loyola today.  Sorry for the repost, just some last minute cold feet.

Thanks for everyone's input!

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: BC vs. Loyola Chicago ($$)
« on: April 25, 2007, 11:00:32 AM »
Unfortunately, I still haven't resolved this dilemma.  Here's an update.

- It's down to BC and LUC for sure
- In terms of fin aid, BC is only giving loans, LUC is giving $20k/yr

I'd much rather live and practice in Chicago than Boston/east coast.  Is the extra prestige of BC worth it?  I visited the BC, and was extremely impressed.  However, I'd like to stay in Chicago.  Given my goals to practice here, will BC really provide an advantage with firms?  Also, I've worked in the legal field as a paralegal for several years, and feel that I can really do well in 1L classes (esp. civ pro and torts) at Loyola.  The transfer option is definitely one that I am considering, with the hope of getting into Northwestern or UChicago next year.  Should that even factor into the equation?

Any advice from people in a similar situation, or current students at BC and LUC/Kent/DePaul is welcome.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Is UVa safe?
« on: April 19, 2007, 12:53:04 PM »
UVA is probably as safe as any school in America.  Honestly, the coverage of the VT tragedy has been a little out of proportion.  The US' gun laws are too lenient, but this isn't a country where rampages like VT are even remotely commonplace.  It was horrible, yes, but these tragedies rarely happen on college campuses (I think the last one was at Texas in 1966).  Don't miss out on an incredible opportunity at UVa because of what some wacko kid did this week.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Most lucrative and prestigious law
« on: April 18, 2007, 02:56:53 PM »
The real question is why would anyone go into law in order to make money?  People who are able to get into law schools are probably able to get into business shools, so if your main concern is to make money, why not go into the private sector (ie: banking, investing, etc)?  I never really could understand why someone would want to be miserable and be a glorified paralegal at a corporate job when they could be getting paid more than that straight from college at a top banking firm.

but isnt it a lot harder to be an investment banker?

My friend is an analyst at Citi, and for a straight-out-of-college job, he makes great money.  He also works 7:00am - past midnight on regular occasions.  Leaving at 2-3am is not out of the ordinary.  I-bankers make lawyers look like slackers.

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Denials / Re: Anyone gotten Dinged from U Texas?
« on: April 16, 2007, 12:33:37 PM »
My status said "Application Denied," so in answer to your question, not everyone is offered a spot on the waiting list.

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There are a 1001 threads on here of, "Crazy to pick University of Nowhere over Duke?" etc. haha.  And kidding aside, there are even less egregious ones like, "Should I pick Duke $$$ over Harvard?"

The answer to every one of these threads is: "YES, you are crazy to do so."

The purpose of a professional graduate school is to get a job after in that discipline, right?  I mean, as far as law is concerned...it is pretty linear in that people go to law school to get the best job they can as a lawyer.

When people ask these questions, I don't think they realize the POWER of a top school.  I am not even exaggerating: the ease with which the studnets I know from Columbia, NYU, etc. have at getting jobs is almost disturbing (and very heartbreaking haha to a T2 guy like myself):  For the top, TOP firms in NYC (and thus, America) interview questions essentially consist of asking what kind of beer you like, what major sports you follow, etc. haha.  Basically, it isn't even an interview so much as it is simply a meet and greet  I mean, no joke...the thing is, these schools are so prestigious that by getting the interview, you pretty much have the job.

The anecdotal statistics on those interviewed at an NYU or Columbia vs. lower tiered schools and the ratio of interviews:offers is staggering.  I mean, pretty much at these school if you get the interview, you will most likely get an offer. 

Go to the best school that you can: you can pay off whatever $$$ very quickly with a high salary.  Honestly, I think the ease of getting a job and the benefits of a prestigious school, from a professional/career standpoint, are actually not exaggerated enough on here.



Generally if there is a big difference in reputation between the two schools you are considering, take less money for the better school.  But if the difference isn't that large, say between 20-35, if you're offered a full ride or a big chunk of cash at the 35th ranked school, it'd be foolish not to consider it.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: BC vs. BU
« on: April 13, 2007, 05:41:00 PM »
I find this whole rivalry pretty humorous.  Both schools are fantastic and have great reputations.  Each has its own strengths and weaknesses.  The schools are so comparable, this endless bickering about which school is better is just nonsense.  The best advice to give is to just check out each of the schools, then decide which school is a better fit for you.  You'll know after giving each school a fair shot.  Personally, I like BC.  But you can't go wrong with either school.

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I support the boycott on the grounds that it's completely flawed and encourages otherwise intelligent students to wet their pants while deciding between a school ranked #85 and #95, or #20 and #26, or tier 3 and tier 4 when in reality there's NO F**KING DIFFERENCE!

well there might not be a difference between #95 and 85, or 20 and 26 but there's a difference between 95 and 20 or 85 and 26.

Anyway, I didn't notice the article mention what schools were boycotting. In order for it to work, it'd need most of the top schools to do it. Otherwise, it won't have much effect other than pissing off the borad who will demand to know why their ranking dropped.

Yes, there is a difference between 95 and 20, but do you really need US News Rankings to figure that out?

Most of the top schools would definitely have to boycott for it to work.  I don't see that happening with how rankings-crazy law schools are today.  There's too much competition in Tiers 1 and 2 between the schools.

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