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Where should I go next fall? / Re: USC, BU, or ND
« on: March 31, 2007, 09:04:41 AM »
Yes, and then there is that, the other extreme. I guess you'd give a similar response if someone said "I heard living at NYU is hectic and immersed in city life", to which you'd reply "You should go to school on the moon, it's relatively quiet and calm out there."

Now that a horse's corpse has been thoroughly desecrated, does anyone have any useful advice?

Were you worried about applying to Fordham/BC because they're Jesuit schools? No? Then why are you complaining about ND?

When did I ever complain about ND's religious affiliation? They can be affilaited, officially, with the Church of Nietzsche and I'm still not happy about a lack of diversity. Variegation in my learning experiences is, for both political, personal and other reasons, important to me.

To clear things up, here is a quote from the Princeton Review's Best 170 Law Schools entry on Notre Dame:

While Notre Dame may "attract students from all over, the student body is very homogenous: white, Catholic, and conservative on social issues." Many students call out for "more diversity" and not just ethnic diveristy, either. "This place needs more married students with kids, students with handicaps, and older people with life experience," says one student.

Contrasted, their entry on Fordham (which is, incidentally, in NYC if you didn't know... that makes a drastic difference in diversity, regardless of the school's religious affiliation):

The diverse student body at Fordham Law Schools reflects its urban environs. ... By all accounts, diversity is an asset to the educational experience, and "having these diverse perspectives in the classrooms have been tremendously beneficial."

Which was precisely the point I was trying to make. Your oversensitivity and delusional claims aside (I had actually never mentioned religious affiliation once, for instance) seem like they have more to do with your issues of being white (and apparently perceiving attacks on being so, even where they do not exist) then anything I said.

You should read their Insider's Guide for admitted students (like a 100+ page book they send).  It's also available on the admitted students site.  IMO the community sounds spectacular, and if you truly want a unique experience, NDLS might be just the place.

However, since it seems you want to end up in NY, I would advise you to go to Fordham.  I think ND is the most national of the schools you're considering; 44% of its students work in the east-north-central region (i.e. the northern midwest), and the rest disperse around the country's major markets pretty evenly.  USC sends 83% of its class to California firms, with only 2% in the mid-atlantic (NY and DC) markets.  Hope that helps.

First, not sure if mentioning "white sensibilities" counts as being a certified "racialist". It is amusing to note how many kids get so up-in-arms at this site at the mere mention of "white", whereas my original post was basically a straight paraphrase of what the Princeton Review itself said. I doubt the PR is in the business of advocating avoiding white people, yet that same language here, rather than indicate a desire of diversity on my behalf, is interpreted as an attack on being white. These are the same kids who get all up in arms about URMs, think diversity isn't worth all that much, etc. The now-familiar claims of reverse-racism against whites are laughable. Give me a break. ::)

Anyway, I had that packet, and read through it a bit, but haven't given it a more detailed read. I'll do that. The info on USC placement is really helpful... where are the numbers from? I was under the impression New York is the third places USC seeds to, ordered by frequency.

I'm sorry man, but you and the Princeton Review just completely lost me when they reported a student calling for more handicapped students....that's just f-in' retarded, no pun intended.  You know what we need here, Father O'Brien?! MORE STUDENTS IN WHEELCHAIRS!

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: USC, BU, or ND
« on: March 30, 2007, 06:41:26 PM »
I don't understand how that's not a valid concern. I don't want a school that's entirely homogeneous, especially in something I'm not. Diversity isn't a bad thing.

So what would you say, if I said, for example, that I didn't want to go to a school because they were way too damn many Asians?
Besides, if you don't like ethnically homogenous schools, then if you don't mind me asking, why the hell did you even apply to ND in the first place?  What did you expect from the flagship of all US Catholic universities?

I don't really see the argument you're trying to make, and you're a splendid troll, but sure, I'll bite. Firstly, I didn't say "I don't want to go to Notre Dame because there are way too many damn whites there", though your convenient paraphrasing does indicate how weak your argument is. But sure, if you said "I don't want to go to x school because it's nearly an all-Asian, or all-Black" or whatever, no, I don't think that would necessarily be racist. There is a big difference between not going to a school because of a group of people ("I refuse to go to a school with x people in it") and searching for diversity ("I want a school that has more than just x people in it").

There is a reason why schools spend so much time advertising their "diversity", and this is especially so for the top-rung schools. I have absolutely no desire to be engulfed in any homogeneity, but this is doubly so for what basically amounts to an all-white school, as whites are the majority in the United States as well. This apparently isn't only my issue, as the Princeton Review's "Best 170 Law Schools" quotes current ND students who call for more diversity.

Why did I apply to ND? Because it was free; I was given a fee waiver, saw that ranking wise it was a good law school, and decided to apply. Maybe you really want to go to ND and are upset that I applied/got in without knowing terribly much about the school? Don't worry, with your award winning character, I'm sure you'll get in. Sorry if I've offended your white sensibilities, but calm down: this is the internet, for one, and while your attempts to be an annoying troll are amusing, they're pretty pedestrian.

I never said you said "oh there are too many damn whites" I was making a point by making an analogy.  You didn't come right out and say there were too many whites, but you implied it by even bringing it up.  If it were a non-factor to you you would have never mentioned it.  Why do law schools advertise diversity? Probably because it's perceived as being good, but I'm not really convinced that it is.  They're after ethnic diversity, not diversity of thought.

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Oh, Whoa..look, here CNN is referencing the southeastern US weather...and LOOK!! NC and Virginia are both in the picture! OMG!

http://www.cnn.com/WEATHER/NAmerica/us.reg/sat.se.html

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Of course I've been watching Alabama, so I was totally shocked to see them move from 43 to 36.  Not only 7 spots, but within the region, they're not tied with UGA.  It's that tie that I find most impressive.  7 spots nationally isn't much, but to now say that you're tied for 2nd in the southeast is pretty big. 

How second in the southeast? UA is a great school  What about Duke, Virginia, Vanderbilt, Emory?  I don't know exactly where UNC and Wake Forest are.

I don't count Virginia or North Carolina as the Southeast, that's how.  And I flat forget about Emory.  Southeast to me is pretty much South Carolina to Mississippi, sometimes including Louisiana.  I was picturing Vanderbilt, and then a tie between UGA and UA. 

For what it's worth, UGA, UA, Wake and UNC are all tied at 36th.

UNC isn't part of the South? Hmm. UTK is making leaps and bounds - don't forget about them.

Southeast.  I don't consider North Carolina part of the southEAST.  There's a difference between "South" - south of Mason-Dixin, east of Texas - and "Southeast".  And I'm not concerned about UTK as they're ranked 53.  With 7 other southeastern schools above them, they don't factor in my statement about how it was startling to see UA suddenly on par with UGA.

Your idea of what the SE is the most retarded thing I've ever heard.  It's in the South, and it's in the East...wow, that makes it the SE.

I'm not the only one...according to LSAC:



and yeah, JM, you were being testy by trying to say that I was implying that I'm better by UTK grads and will automatically get a better job.  Hell, I don't even want to practice in the southeast, so I guarantee that I'm not competing against any UTK grads for the jobs I want.  Of course I know I'll have to compete against schools ranked above and below where I end up.  Still, that's not at all what I was saying in any of my comments.  I was saying that it's surprising to see UA now on par with UGA.  In fact, according to the blue map, they're tied for first in the southeast.  Woohoo!  They're #1!

Wow, the LSAC are really geography gurus, give me a minute and i'll find YOU a map.

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Of course I've been watching Alabama, so I was totally shocked to see them move from 43 to 36.  Not only 7 spots, but within the region, they're not tied with UGA.  It's that tie that I find most impressive.  7 spots nationally isn't much, but to now say that you're tied for 2nd in the southeast is pretty big. 

How second in the southeast? UA is a great school  What about Duke, Virginia, Vanderbilt, Emory?  I don't know exactly where UNC and Wake Forest are.

I don't count Virginia or North Carolina as the Southeast, that's how.  And I flat forget about Emory.  Southeast to me is pretty much South Carolina to Mississippi, sometimes including Louisiana.  I was picturing Vanderbilt, and then a tie between UGA and UA. 

For what it's worth, UGA, UA, Wake and UNC are all tied at 36th.

UNC isn't part of the South? Hmm. UTK is making leaps and bounds - don't forget about them.

Southeast.  I don't consider North Carolina part of the southEAST.  There's a difference between "South" - south of Mason-Dixin, east of Texas - and "Southeast".  And I'm not concerned about UTK as they're ranked 53.  With 7 other southeastern schools above them, they don't factor in my statement about how it was startling to see UA suddenly on par with UGA.

Your idea of what the SE is the most retarded thing I've ever heard.  It's in the South, and it's in the East...wow, that makes it the SE.

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Didn't Duquesne fall by like an entire tier? I thought last year they were at the very top of T3, then this year somewhere towards the middle of T4.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: USC, BU, or ND
« on: March 30, 2007, 01:53:23 PM »
I dont think asians are the overwhelming majority at any school.

I didn't say "majority", I said "too many".  But they actually are at a few...but that is irrelevant.  Why is it so bad to assume or to see that the overwhelming majority of students at a given school would be white?

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: USC, BU, or ND
« on: March 30, 2007, 01:46:50 PM »
I don't understand how that's not a valid concern. I don't want a school that's entirely homogeneous, especially in something I'm not. Diversity isn't a bad thing.

So what would you say, if I said, for example, that I didn't want to go to a school because they were way too damn many Asians?
Besides, if you don't like ethnically homogenous schools, then if you don't mind me asking, why the hell did you even apply to ND in the first place?  What did you expect from the flagship of all US Catholic universities?

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: USC, BU, or ND
« on: March 30, 2007, 01:20:28 PM »
I'm leaning towards USC. I read that ND is mainly white/conservative, anyone know if this actually holds true? Any other pros/cons would be much appreciated. I'm a big fan of cities, really want a unique experience for the next three years, a relaxed environment and wouldn't mind working back in New York when I was done. All advice is welcomed.

OH NO!! NOT WHITE AND CONSERVATIVE!!

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Benefactor aka "Suckit"
« on: March 29, 2007, 09:22:37 PM »
Sorry, but I'm not "SuckIt"...maybe you can get one of the admins or moderators to verify, via IP, that I'm not that person.

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