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General Board / Re: Gearing up for the bar exam
« on: May 20, 2008, 03:15:36 AM »
I already finished my 6-day PMBR. It's a nice little primer getting you reacquainted with the stuff you haven't studied since 1L. It's also pretty good practice learning the format and types of questions on the MBE. But that's all it is.

The real action comes with your substantive bar review class (ex. barbri). If you already have your barbri books, you can review the Conviser mini-review before taking each 50 question MBE test so you'll do a little better. The barbri books, and not the little notes that some people take during the PMBR lectures, are your real source for the law.

Personally, I liked to go through about 5-10 questions at a time, and then really study the answer explanations. The explanations in the back are pretty good, and the usefulness of going to the lectures was marginal for me.

General Board / Re: Judicial Internship
« on: May 18, 2008, 10:45:43 PM »
Call him whatever he prefers, obviously. But as a general rule, use "your honor" if you are speaking during court proceedings. Back in chambers or outside of court, "judge" is more appropriate because it is respectful, but a little less formal.

General Board / Re: Would really appreciate help, I messed up
« on: May 14, 2008, 12:25:20 AM »
Congrats and good luck! I won't state the obvious about what you need to do differently in law school.

Just so you're informed, check your law school's policy about being sick during law school exams. At our school, if you're sick during exams, you can take them at a later date with no penalty, but if you're sick during the study period a few days before the exam, you're out of luck! This can really hurt if you plan to cram and put in 12 hour days right before the exam.

General Board / Re: Judicial Internship
« on: May 13, 2008, 09:02:26 PM »
When I interned for a judge, he required that I observe court proceedings and then go into chambers and talk with him about what happened (he did most of the talking). This is pretty common. It helped to understand what was going on so I could ask intelligent questions. Brush up on the fundamentals of evidence and crim pro. Just knowing the steps of criminal proceedings in the particular court is important so you know what's going on (i.e. are you watching a prelim or a trial).

Also, I took a few notes during the proceedings and jotted down my questions so I'd have something to talk about in chambers.

As to written work, I had a tendency to try and turn things around very quickly. But don't get too excited about working quickly. It's a good idea to take a fresh look at your work before turning it in. Also don't forget to shepardize. It's much better to do 6 quality assignments than 10 rushed ones. You want the clerk/judge to feel confident in your work. If they find a big mistake, such as, you cited bad law, they won't have that confidence and their opinion of you will suffer. But save asking for help for when you really are confused and have tried researching the issue yourself.

I liked to be social with other interns and go out to lunch etc., but when it came down to actually doing work, I used an earplug and got down to business. If you are socializing the whole day, and don't focus for more than 5 minutes at a time, then your written work will suffer.

Aside from written work, try to observe as many interesting proceedings as you can (including in other courtrooms), even if it cuts into your time doing written work. You may want to take a few notes of what you observe, including what you like and don't like about how the attorneys present themselves.

Finally, don't count out criminal law yet!

General Board / Re: Best Non-Law Careers with a J.D.
« on: May 13, 2008, 08:19:23 PM »
I attended 2 panels in law school called "Alternative Careers in the Law." Every panelist strongly advised practicing before entering an alternative career.

Seriously, the law professor, mediator, law school librarian, businessman - everyone said get a few years of practice in before pursuing an alternative career.

General Board / Gearing up for the bar exam
« on: May 10, 2008, 02:30:58 AM »
I just finished my last of 4 exams in my final semester of law school. For some reason, it was especially tough for me (sometimes painful) to really study hard and prepare for them. That said, I tried hard and I'm sure I did fine.

But after a short number of days of relaxation, TV, bars, the beach and that kind of stuff, it's already time for bar review class. I honestly don't know if I can gear up for it right now. I popped in a property PMBR CD yesterday and the guy was talking about fee tail, fee simple with a condition subsequent, executory interest, and a whole host of things that I vaguely remember, but could care less about right now.

Does anyone else dread getting back into a serious, focused mode for 2+ months, so soon after finishing law school? How are you guys gearing yourselves up (or how did you if you already took the bar)?

Obviously depends on your school, but they may be hesitant to fail a graduating student. You may be looking at a C- or even a D, but I'll bet that you don't fail.

General Board / Re: Dormant Commerce Clause
« on: May 05, 2008, 01:00:22 PM »
Try this. It's a professor's outline (well it's posted on his webpage) part 4 of 5 and has a large but succinct section on the dormant commerce clause.

The other parts of the outline can be found here:

Studying and Exam Taking / Re: Federal Cts order of analysis?
« on: May 04, 2008, 02:54:34 AM »
I say just focus on the mandatory view of article III and Colorado River abstention exclusively.

General Board / Re: What Law School Rankings Don't Say......
« on: April 22, 2008, 02:59:23 AM »
I think Prize Fight Promoter just called it. Ex nihilo has 11 recent posts, all from yesterday, and one was a cut and paste from wikipedia.   :o

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