There are so many different contributing factors into the job search for law graduates. First and foremost, it definitely has a big emphasis on your GPA/Class Rank. But let's face it, a law firm is going to be hesistant to hire a top 5% graduate if he/she is terrible during an interview. Think about what the job search entails for these firms. They are essentially looking to hire a person that is going to be the next partner.
I just wanted to make sure people know this...but in a class of say 40 incoming associates, do you know how many make partner??? Id say 5 or less. And I mean equity partner, not that BS position they give you as basically a senior associate to placate your dreams for that cush corner office while they still bill you out at 400/hr. Thats after your first failed marriage and some hypertension.
Rant over. But seriously, if youre goal is to make partner at BIGLAW (V100), at least know what youre up against.
Well your post clearly shows reasoning skills that may be similar to Ali G himself. Take a step back and actually read what I said buddy. It's pretty cut and dry actually. "Looking to hire a person that is going to be the next partner." That doesn't allude or say that each new associate is going to be given the opportunity to make partner. So to my knowledge, law recruiters aren't looking to hire somebody that would deam incompetent to make their way up to partner. You didn't do so well on the LR section of the LSAT did you?
But alas, you're correct - not everybody makes full equity partner. But before you try to call somebody out to look an idiot, read the post carefully before you become the idiot! Booyakasha!!
Yea...you need to chill. Im sorry if you felt like I was "trying to make you look like an idiot". It wasn't intended. I'm also sorry that you feel the need to insult my choice of avatar in my attempt to make people laugh. Sorry, I'm not down with posting picks of myself and my gf on the internet. If trying to insult me through insulting my choice of avatar and my performance on the logical reasoning section of the lsat makes you feel better, by all means, feel free.
I understood what you said perfectly. But you obviously found my attempt to show a different side of big-law as an insult of some sort towards you. My goal was simply to make sure people that are looking to go into firms are aware that partnership is not anywhere near guarenteed before they go head over heels after it. Now would firms hire associates who they dont think have the potential to be partners? Of course not. But they know that most will not stay for very long - many leave after 3/4 years. Now after 8-10 years of working many hours and bringing in buisness, yes they may "be up for partner" where they will either give you a thumbs up, or a thumbs down. This is different with every firm depending on what kind of partner tracks they have, etc. What do they expect from associates? They expect them to work 50-80 hrs/wk at $250-350 billables/hr, making the (true) partners lots of money. Not to mention that many who make partner actually lateral from the gov. agencies and other firms by bringing CLIENTS to the firm.
Now, get some knowledge and checkkk it.
I think most people on here understand that making partner at a huge firm is something that is attained only by a select few that enter BIGLAW every year. My question is this, what are the most common reasons one would not make partner? I know the obvious reasons, such as being blackballed or simply not cutting it, but I'm trying to dig a little deeper here.
Basically, it seems like a lot of people have this "BIGLAW or Bust" mentality, but in reality a lot of folks enter BIGLAW to buy time, stack some dough, and then go out and open up their own shop. So, they leave before making partner, but when doing their own thing, they may be better off.
Also, do we have statistics on where those that don't make partner after the customary 7.5-8 years go?