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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Arizona or American???
« on: June 17, 2007, 07:15:24 PM »
I live in NY now, but I am from Arizona, I went to UA for undergrad.

Oh Ok...I was just asking because, obviously, Tucson and DC are entirely different.  You said you were leaning Arizona???  What do you consider as pros for American???  Is it just Public Interest?

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Univ. of Miami anyone?
« on: June 14, 2007, 10:05:02 AM »
Realistically, for all we know they send this out every year as a way to get people to withdraw if they aren't attending. If it is unusual, I just hope it doesn't cause the section sizes to be much bigger-- I didn't sign up for a 100-person-section-size!

Jilli, I keep saying the same thing about not backing out. I am freaking out a bit now...I mean I've had a job since I was 15! I don't think I've ever lived on 7k a year! (7k is what is left over after tuition and assuming 12k/year for housing).  :P

with an acceptance rate near 39%, I'm sure they do it frequently....what blows is that most can't receive scholarships because there are so many admits and people dying to get in off the waiting list....I'm also pretty sure that one wouldn't keep a scholarship if he/she deferred.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Arizona or American???
« on: June 11, 2007, 07:21:32 PM »
Kavalier, where are you from??

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: USD vs. U of Arizona
« on: June 10, 2007, 10:52:50 AM »
i don't know if the op has seen these but maybe they will shed some light on how the schools stack up.



Choosing the Right Law School / Re: USD vs. U of Arizona
« on: June 09, 2007, 04:59:09 PM »
As a person considering UA, I'd like to chime in here.  I actually just came back from spending a week in Arizona, one day in the Phoenix/Scottsdale area and 6 in Tucson...In terms of what I thought, I can sum it up by saying UA is a great school, but in the wrong city....Having never been to Arizona, or having spent much time in the Southwest at all, maybe I just had high expectations....I don't know, but to me, it just seemed like something shady was going on.  Petty Crime everywhere.  I'm considering going to UMiami also, which is in a city with more of a violent crime problem, so in comparison Tucson doesn't seem too bad.  The area around UA's campus is less than desireable...Yes, affordable housing is everywhere, but no one said it was pleasant.  You definitely get what you pay for.  On the positive side of things, do I think the school is good enough to warrant living in a less than desireable area for three years???? Yes.  Here's why:

-the ability to establish residency, makes it hard for other top public law schools to match UA's good job prospects, high clerkship placements, and low average student debt.
-Phoenix/Scottsdale is really nice, so even if you can't make it out of AZ, you're only an hour and a half away from a bigger, more pleasant city.
-I don't have numbers, but I'm sure lots of grads are able to make it to San Diego and other parts of Cali....In fact, most of the out-of-state students are from CA.  Surely, alot go back after law school.  When you do see the numbers, I'd like to mention that the student body at UA is a little older than at most law schools. I think the average age is around 26 and 20% of all students are over 30.  For these students, many having families, leaving Tucson or Arizona may not be an option due to reasons other than the assumption that the degree doesn't travel.  So the employment statistics for out-of-state placement may be a little skewed b/c of this.
-The close knit community was wonderful.  I met with the Dean of Admissions and didn't tell her I was coming before hand.  I knocked on her door, said my name, and she immediately knew who I was, where I was from, and didn't break stride.  It was like she was expecting me.  I heard she did this for everyone at ASD.  I've heard similar things about the faculty as well, so it definitely carries over.  With regard to enrollment, I think the ratio of professors/students is like 13:1.  The students themselves are very collegial.  I met people who either went to UA law or had friends/relatives that attended and they all said that instead of competition, its more of a feeling that everyone is in it together.  I read 1L summer employment statistics for the class of '08.  About 100/153 or so had really good gigs lined up--clerkship, internship, or summer associateship...Some of the 1Ls even split the summer at 2 different firms.  I haven't seen data like this for any other school I've visited.

I just got back today so I will write more later on...

In more detail though, VAP does provide an accurate assesment of the pros for UA...He/She has definitely done the research....



i def will admit i half assed attempted to get in somewhere- it was like a desperate throw trying to hit the bullseye...and i didnt come close.

and yes, the citadel as in the military college of sc- i didnt say it has a bad rep, just not a nationally recognized one- i meet people all the time who arent from the south and they are like "Citadel?  WTF is that?"  Rudy Guliani did the commencement speech this year and GW himself came while i was a cadet but there seems to be a crack the citadel keeps falling through.

anyways thanks again for the info.  and you are right about the T4 i think- st thomas charges 26 plus 10 for room and board.  seems like a loooot of money for a low regarded school especially since UM is just about the same?

With regard to your GPA, was it during your knob year???  If so, I'd definitely write an addendum b/c if I went through the hell you went through freshman year, I'd have a tough hole to climb out of soph, jun, and senior year. 

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Florida Coastal?
« on: May 23, 2007, 06:45:21 PM »
reply to the email and ask 2 questions: 1. what do you need to keep it  2. what is the median GPA of the 1L class.

Only like 1 in 3 FL Coastal students can keep their scholarships. They give money to a whole wack of people and then it becomes a competition as to who keeps it after first year.

definitely true...I got the same email...3.0 needed to keep it, but check out the curve for 1st years:

A, A-        15%
B+, B, B-    25%
C+, C, C-    45%
D+, D, F     15%
click link, go to registrar->academic policies, page 18 of PDF

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Univ. of Miami anyone?
« on: May 23, 2007, 06:36:01 PM »
so i got an email from florida coastal.  they're giving me 20k a year.  funny thing is i didnt even apply.  haha.   ;)

i think i'll pass.  ;D

Got the same email....funny thing is that I replied to ask questions (not cause I was interested) and state I had an offer from UM....guy replies back and says,  the UM offer sounds better, I should go there.

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