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Where should I go next fall? / Re: What is a T2 school?
« on: March 30, 2009, 05:10:10 PM »
Schools ranked 50-100

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I'm an Iowa Law alum.  Some of my law school friends practice in Iowa - Des Moines, Quad-Cities, etc.  Some went to Phoenix, some to Minneapolis, some to Austin, some to DC, some to NYC, one was an assistant DA in Boston, and I'm in-house corporate counsel at a Fortune 500 company in Silicon Valley. 

While many stay in the midwest, some of us do escape.  (I'm actually fond of the midwest.)

The alumni notes give a sense of where some Iowa alum are now:  http://www.law.uiowa.edu/advocate/ISSUES/volume-47/summer-08/pdfs/alumni-news.pdf

Do you know how your friends working outside of the midwest placed in their class?

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According to ABA data only a third of the 2007 graduating class stayed in Iowa but FWIW Iowa was the biggest placement market and there was 7% unemployment. I wouldn't say it's crazy to go Iowa and aim to land to a job in Chicago but if you're primarily interested in big markets outside of Iowa it's hard for me to see what Iowa would offer that would make it better than a school that's closer to or in one of those markets like Illinois, Minnesota, Wisconsin, or IU Bloomington. 


FWIW, Minneapolis / St. Paul and Bloomington are all further from Chicago than Iowa City.

Iowa is highly regarded in the Chicago market.
The Bloomington comparison was a mistake and I was thinking of Minneapolis/St. Paul as also being a larger market in the context of my statements. Granted it's not Chicago but it's not Des Moines either.

I'm sure Iowa's a solid school but if your target is to be in  a big firm it's hard for me to see what it offers that would make it better than most other similarly ranked schools. IMO the major benefit from a career prospective of going to Iowa would be that it would give you better positioning in Iowa. On the other side there are of course other issues that are not strictly speaking career related such as debt that should factor into where one chooses to go to school.

I guess what I felt like I was hearing from the original poster and the question being asked was basically that he liked university of Iowa but didn't want to stay in Iowa after graduation. If that's the case money aside I say why not just go somewhere else where you would be more happy staying after graduation? 

I'm sure it's possible to go to Iowa and land a job outside of Iowa but that shouldn't be the question the question should be how does one school stack up versus another in terms of helping someone achieve goals. 

Well, the main reason I am interested in Iowa was because it is ranked the highest by far out of the 3  schools I applied to (SMU and Houston are the other). I also get instate tuition for Iowa.

From the searches I've done on this board it seems like tey do have some alumni that go to places like Phoenix, Miami, and Las Vegas- all 3 places I wouldn't mind practiing. However, if these placements require being near the top of the class, I would probably go to a Texas school instead. I would be satisfied if I finished in he middle of the class and practiced in a midsized firm in Texas. I would not be satisfied if I graduated in the middle of the class at Iowa and had to stay in the midwest. So my main question I guess was whether or not the middle of Iowa's class had mobility outside the midwest.

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More: not all people of color have grown up in the hood or have been called racial slurs to their faces on a regular basis. A URM with the most cushy life has still been disadvantaged compared to a white guy.

Like Chris Rock said at one of his concerts: "Not one white dude in here would even trade places with ME...and I'm rich! That's how good it is to be white in America."



There are millions of white people who would trade places to be a black millionaire. If you honestly believe in Chris Rock's joke you are blind. Just go to a random mall and see the white kids who try to walk and dress like they're black and talk like they're black. Most of them would trade places with a poor black person, forget the wealth.

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Step 1: Insert white person into most udesirable conditions possible in this country. 
Result: Life sucks

Step 2: Make that white person black/mexican.
Result: Life just got worse.

Those who deny the existence of white privilege in the USA lose all credibility.

What about Asians and Indians? Do they not get discriminated against? At the same time these groups need even higher scores than whites to be considered their equal during admissions. Tell me how this is fair?

Replace "black/mexican" with "non-white" if it'll make you happy.

But it won't show AA is fair to "overrepesented minorities". Admitting people based on race is wrong on all levels.

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Step 1: Insert white person into most udesirable conditions possible in this country. 
Result: Life sucks

Step 2: Make that white person black/mexican.
Result: Life just got worse.

Those who deny the existence of white privilege in the USA lose all credibility.

What about Asians and Indians? Do they not get discriminated against? At the same time these groups need even higher scores than whites to be considered their equal during admissions. Tell me how this is fair?

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Step 1: Insert white person into most udesirable conditions possible in this country. 
Result: Life sucks

Step 2: Make that white person black/mexican.
Result: Life just got worse.

Those who deny the existence of white privilege in the USA lose all credibility.

What about Asians and Indians? Do they not get discriminated against? At the same time these groups need never higher scores than whites to be considered their equal during admissions. Tell me how this is fair?

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Transferring / Re: T10 transfer, taking questions...
« on: March 25, 2009, 03:09:49 PM »
What month did you starting sending out transfer applications? How long did it typically take for a school to give you a response?

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It's a regional school, but the region is big. You arent stuck in Iowa. Lots of Iowa grads work in MI, WI, MN, IL etc. Iowa will give you plenty of options in the Great Lakes and Midwest.

I hate the midwest... so I guess this chart is misleading? http://www.law.uiowa.edu/careers/stats-alumni.php

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Where should I go next fall? / Is Iowa a national or regional school?
« on: March 25, 2009, 02:25:37 AM »
Their website shows graduates all over the US. I'm sure their top 25% get biglaw like any other tier 1 school. Does anyone know the rest of their class places nationally? They only rank top 12%, top 37%, and everyone else is unranked. Is this a good or bad thing when looking outside the midwest for employment?

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