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I'm an Iowa Law alum.  Some of my law school friends practice in Iowa - Des Moines, Quad-Cities, etc.  Some went to Phoenix, some to Minneapolis, some to Austin, some to DC, some to NYC, one was an assistant DA in Boston, and I'm in-house corporate counsel at a Fortune 500 company in Silicon Valley. 

While many stay in the midwest, some of us do escape.  (I'm actually fond of the midwest.)

The alumni notes give a sense of where some Iowa alum are now:  http://www.law.uiowa.edu/advocate/ISSUES/volume-47/summer-08/pdfs/alumni-news.pdf

Do you know how your friends working outside of the midwest placed in their class?

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According to ABA data only a third of the 2007 graduating class stayed in Iowa but FWIW Iowa was the biggest placement market and there was 7% unemployment. I wouldn't say it's crazy to go Iowa and aim to land to a job in Chicago but if you're primarily interested in big markets outside of Iowa it's hard for me to see what Iowa would offer that would make it better than a school that's closer to or in one of those markets like Illinois, Minnesota, Wisconsin, or IU Bloomington. 


FWIW, Minneapolis / St. Paul and Bloomington are all further from Chicago than Iowa City.

Iowa is highly regarded in the Chicago market.
The Bloomington comparison was a mistake and I was thinking of Minneapolis/St. Paul as also being a larger market in the context of my statements. Granted it's not Chicago but it's not Des Moines either.

I'm sure Iowa's a solid school but if your target is to be in  a big firm it's hard for me to see what it offers that would make it better than most other similarly ranked schools. IMO the major benefit from a career prospective of going to Iowa would be that it would give you better positioning in Iowa. On the other side there are of course other issues that are not strictly speaking career related such as debt that should factor into where one chooses to go to school.

I guess what I felt like I was hearing from the original poster and the question being asked was basically that he liked university of Iowa but didn't want to stay in Iowa after graduation. If that's the case money aside I say why not just go somewhere else where you would be more happy staying after graduation? 

I'm sure it's possible to go to Iowa and land a job outside of Iowa but that shouldn't be the question the question should be how does one school stack up versus another in terms of helping someone achieve goals. 

Well, the main reason I am interested in Iowa was because it is ranked the highest by far out of the 3  schools I applied to (SMU and Houston are the other). I also get instate tuition for Iowa.

From the searches I've done on this board it seems like tey do have some alumni that go to places like Phoenix, Miami, and Las Vegas- all 3 places I wouldn't mind practiing. However, if these placements require being near the top of the class, I would probably go to a Texas school instead. I would be satisfied if I finished in he middle of the class and practiced in a midsized firm in Texas. I would not be satisfied if I graduated in the middle of the class at Iowa and had to stay in the midwest. So my main question I guess was whether or not the middle of Iowa's class had mobility outside the midwest.

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Transferring / Re: T10 transfer, taking questions...
« on: March 25, 2009, 01:09:49 PM »
What month did you starting sending out transfer applications? How long did it typically take for a school to give you a response?

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It's a regional school, but the region is big. You arent stuck in Iowa. Lots of Iowa grads work in MI, WI, MN, IL etc. Iowa will give you plenty of options in the Great Lakes and Midwest.

I hate the midwest... so I guess this chart is misleading? http://www.law.uiowa.edu/careers/stats-alumni.php

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Choosing the Right Law School / Is Iowa a national or regional school?
« on: March 25, 2009, 12:25:37 AM »
Their website shows graduates all over the US. I'm sure their top 25% get biglaw like any other tier 1 school. Does anyone know the rest of their class places nationally? They only rank top 12%, top 37%, and everyone else is unranked. Is this a good or bad thing when looking outside the midwest for employment?

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Should Fat People Pay More?
« on: March 24, 2009, 08:23:20 AM »
can we talk about the option of offering discount incentives for people who lose weight?

How about discount incentives for people who commit to certain healthy lifestyle choices (e.g., exercise programs, nutrition programs, smoking cessation)?  I think these present some of the same risks you and I mentioned earlier, but at least they seem more fair and rational than basing everything on weight, which is a highly fallible proxy for health.

It already exists. United Healthcare reimburses you up to 200 dollars every 6 months if you make 60 gym visits and have your gym verify it.

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Should Fat People Pay More?
« on: March 23, 2009, 10:52:52 PM »
Its really not any different than higher auto insurance rates for males and younger people. Surely not all males are more accident prone than females, but stats show the the average male is in fact involoved in more accidents. Whether or not males deserve to be all be grouped together is simiar to whether or not fat people should be grouped together. So if there is overwhelming statistics that fat people consistantly require more medical attention, then I don't see how this would be any different than charging males higher rates for auto insurance.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Speaking Spanish in Texas
« on: March 23, 2009, 07:42:06 PM »
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If they speak Spanish, I can call them Spanish.

Actual Spanish people will often say they speak Castellano (Castilian)- not Espanol (Spanish). The official language of Spain is in fact Castilian:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_language

Does that mean people from Spain are not Spanish?


Back to the original point: I grew up in Texas. Most lawyers don't speak fluent Spanish there. The Spanish and English speaking communities are pretty segregated (moreso than in Miami).

Thanks, good to hear a clear answer about the need of spanish in the legal community (the point of this thread).

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Should Fat People Pay More?
« on: March 23, 2009, 02:34:15 PM »
If people with lower body fat get discounts, I'm all for it.

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I didn't ask, 'who's ashamed of listening to rap'.  I asked, 'which rapper are you most ashamed to [like]?'  I'm assuming everyone listens to hip hop.  Most of the rich, "upper class" kids I went to school with listened to more hip hop than anyone. 

Noone has an artist who they are ashamed of digging?  There are probably plenty of them that you should be... 

Why would you be ashamed of listening to TI? What he does in his personal life doesn't prevent him from making great music.

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