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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Michigan 1L Taking Questions
« on: August 10, 2008, 02:47:30 PM »
Brueggers isn't that bad, and is certainly better than what you get at the supermarket or starbucks.  Also, Zingermans isn't that bad either; neither are a New York bagel, but they aren't the equivalent of what you'd get at starbucks, either.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Michigan 1L Taking Questions
« on: August 09, 2008, 08:34:21 PM »
Do Summer starters have a lower median LSAT/GPA?

I could be wrong, but it's my understanding that most (though not all) summer starters are ED applicants.  (I also believe that all ED admits end up as summer starters, correct?.) 

Given that ED applicants are probably (though not necessarily) more borderline applicants, I would assume that they do, on average, have a slightly lower average numerical profile.  (The fact a prof would try to dispute this is completely foreseeable, but also completely meaningless without supporting data.) It's not going to be a huge difference either way.

I'll also second what others have said about summer start -- most people I've spoken to who've done this appear to love it.  To the extent they form a clique, it's because they actually get to know each other due to the smaller class size.

Any change that is being discussed is likely the change that no longer allows schools to hide students from ABA reporting students in non fall start programs.  It used to be the case that a school would not have to report the statistics of students in a program like the summer program, and so it became a place for those whose numbers were less than impressive (this may even explain why ED was summer start only); now all statistics are reported, so the benefit to hiding people in the summer class no longer exists.

Law School Admissions / Re: LAW SCHOOL CALCULATOR- Accurate or not?
« on: August 07, 2008, 09:41:43 PM »
I still don't understand why the index number for CLS is made up at

Do they publish an index formula?  Most schools do, but some don't.

Law School Admissions / Re: LAW SCHOOL CALCULATOR- Accurate or not?
« on: August 07, 2008, 09:20:04 PM » doesn't pretend to give you chances, but it does tell you where you stand using the actual index number formula by most schools, including telling you what you'd have to do to your LSAT or GPA to have an index number higher than a theoretical candidate at the 75th percentile LSAT and GPA

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Michigan + $49,000, or Chicago?
« on: July 21, 2008, 08:46:24 AM »
Congrats. You made the right choice by choosing Chicago.
hands down Michigan. Can't believe this is even a serious post.

Oh, for heaven's sake. This is just silly. Please reread sillyberry's post re: there is no right answer here, and the OP (and anyone else in this position) will be in great shape no matter where s/he ends up. At this level of nuance between schools, it really should be a matter of fit.

I actually did a calculation, and it came out Chicago 262, Michigan 259, so Chicago was the right answer.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Michigan + $49,000, or Chicago?
« on: July 21, 2008, 07:15:44 AM »
I agree completely, and isn't there a chance of instate tuition in 2L and 3L?  Unfortunately, the OP already decided.

There almost no chance at in state tuition in your second and third years without evidence of taking pretty extreme steps to become permanently resident in Michigan after school.  Even if you were successful at the process, which is highly doubtful, the savings at the Law School are middling.  Only a few thousand dollars.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: What Law Blogs Do You Read?
« on: July 18, 2008, 12:46:27 AM »
Mac Law Students
Susan Crawford
Slate Jurisprudence
Adam Smith, Esq.
Stanley Fish
Lessig Blog
Clay Shirky
Legal Theory Blog
Brian Leiter's Law School Reports
How Appealing
WSJ Law Blog
Above The Law
Law School Innovation
First Movers
CALI Pre-Law Blog
Top Law Student
Leiter Reports
Brian Leiter's Law School Reports
Chicago A Day In The Live
University of Chicago Faculty Blog
Slate Supreme Court
Slate Convictions
Patent Law Blog (Patenly-O)
Emperical Legal Studies
Inter Alia

General Off-Topic Board / Re: SFLSD: Perspicacity.
« on: July 17, 2008, 02:34:38 PM »
blichigan teaches erie and other jurisdiction stuff in an upper level (and non-mandatory) jurisdiction and choice of law class.  half the sections last year got a taste nonetheless, but all but the most basic jurisdiction stuff goes into the upper level class, and we take what is basically Civ Pro II during 1L year, pretending that all but the most basic of jurisdictional issues don't matter.

Transferring / Re: GW over Michigan??
« on: July 17, 2008, 09:22:44 AM »
When airline prices come down a bit this fall, that'll ease the sting a bit.

Hahaha.  Airline prices come down a bit this fall.  Hahahaha.

No matter the market conditions at the moment, airline prices have throughout recent history always dropped after the summer travel season, for a number of reasons, from basic supply and demand (less demand means lower prices to compete) to very strange reasons, like the combinations of traditional drops in unrest in oil producing countries (holidays/bad weather), lower fuel demand (due to low passenger demand and weather patterns) and the closing of fiscal year's accounting.

Now, if airline tickets go even higher this fall, then all bets are off and the end of the world is that much closer...  ???

Your right, there is an historical trend.  This year will be different; even if fares come down a bit, they will still be significantly higher than they were at the same time in the year previous.  Also, airlines have cut capacity by huge amounts, reducing supply.  Furthermore, oil costs are likely to continue to remain high or even increase, and some airlines are running out of their cheaper oil hedges.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Michigan Class of 2011: where you should be
« on: July 17, 2008, 09:11:30 AM »
Hi folks! A quick question- I am taking out a small private loan to help cover some of my expenses. In order to get this loan, I need to send in a copy of my tuition invoice. I don't know exactly if this is something we've already gotten, or will be getting, or what. I have plenty of forms with the tuition amount on them, but it sort of sounds like I need an actual bill or something that proves that I've enrolled and intend to pay tuition. Has anyone else ever needed one of these, and if so, what did you use? Thanks!

Call the FinAid office, they handle all of the coordination with loan providers.

I tried that, but this loan is being disbursed directly to me, rather than through the school, and they said they weren't exactly sure what it was I needed. If it helps, it's a MyRichUncle loan. Has anyone gotten one of these? In order to secure the loan, I need to provide either a "tuition invoice" OR my class schedule, so it seems they're mostly looking for something that proves I'm enrolled/committed to enrolling.

Class schedule you won't have until closer to orientation, but you may be able to get a copy of your tuition bill from Wolverine Access.

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