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Nope. They would only pass if the OP can get in-state tuition.

To the OP, go where you have in-state tuition.

FWIW, I believe they all pass the stateofbeasley test.

Where is that guy anyway?

At BU, your money is guaranteed right? That means 45K over three years no matter what.

When assessing risk, you should think of yourself as average. That means you will not keep the BLS scholarship.

In sum, worst case scenario, that means the cost is pretty close to the same. If you are average at BU, you will probably not get a biglaw job, but you will be in a better spot than an average student at BLS.

If being average at either school isn't good enough for you, then you shouldn't attend either, and instead reapply next year with a higher LSAT score. If you are looking for security regarding job options, you're not going to find it unless your attending one of the very top law schools. If the risk of either school doesn't suit you, and you think you could get into a top 15 or top 10 school next year with a higher lsat score, I would urge you to wait and not go this year.

This is coming from a current law student who has seen half or more scholarship recipients at my school lose their money. Do not bet that you will keep your scholarship at any school if there are class ranking renewal requirements. Especially, when "stacking" is something that might be going on. "Stacking" probably goes on at more schools than you think.

By the way, I didn't come into my school with a scholarship, and I didn't get crummy grades this year, so this is not a "sour grapes" post.


HU is a little more expensive than the average state school, but it is still about $10K or more cheaper than most private law schools.

UDC gets absolutely no respect, and its bar passage rate is awful. Usually the differences between tier 3 / tier 4 schools are very minor, but here we're talking about a pretty big difference.

True, some admissions offices are rude, but don't let that be a factor in your decision. After one year of law school, I can tell you that you will never hear from the admissions staff again once you start attending classes.

As for study abroad, another non-factor because most schools will let you participate in other law schools' study abroad programs. I'd be shocked if HU didn't allow this.

What it gets down to is job opportunities and respect. HU is not a top school by any measure and never will be, but it is respected. Talk to any practicing attorney and you'll see what I mean.

UDC would only be appropriate if you know for certain that you want to start your own solo practice after school or have a job lined up before law school through big time connections. In those cases, school rep doesn't matter.


Offer of admission from Howard today. I have until 5pm EST Wednesday to make a decision.

I can cancel the promissory note and sign a new one for Howard (according to the people at Access Group), so I'm back to pros and cons for UDC and Howard. Here they are (pros bolded):

Cheap tuition and scholarship opportunities for 2nd and 3rd year
Clinic Program
Faculty - Some have done exactly what I hope to do post-grad
Attentive and friendly staff and faculty throughout the whole process
4th Tier
Not-well known and questionable reputation (according to past posts on LSN/LSD)
No OCI for students (though clinics and community service helps with that)
Handwritten exams all 3 years (minor concern, but still)

3rd Tier but nationally recognized
Study Abroad opportunity (South Africa)
OCI for 1Ls and upperclassmen
Faculty - Also very accomplished in areas I'd like to go into
Facilities: Slightly more room than UDC, recent library upgrade
Places well in competitions against other law schools
Tuition roughly 20K/year (UDC 7K/ 2-3 year)
Not as many clinics as UDC (possibly lacking the community service/experience element that made UDC attractive)
Some RUDE staff during admissions process

I know conventional wisdom is "go to the best school," but I honestly need help deciding. Any advice out there?

Where should I go next fall? / Re: Judicial Clerkships
« on: June 26, 2007, 05:24:22 PM »
Your best bet from a low ranked school would be a federal district court clerkship or a state supreme court clerkship. Although rare, it is possible to get such a clerkship from a tier 2/3 law school. You'd need to graduate at the very top of your class, probably one of the top five students, not percent, and be on the editorial board of your school's flagship journal.

Basically, your chances are very, very slim.

Additionally, some state appeals courts hire permanent staff attorneys. For one of these positions, you would probably need to be in the top 20% of your class or higher, and probably have flagship journal experience.

Definately retake the LSAT.

Like goose said, the job doesn't matter. Being a paralegal won't really help you. Just get a job that will take care of your bills and allow you ample time to study for the LSAT.

With a good score, you could probably get some scholarship money at a top 25 school despite lackluster Ugrad gpa. With a great score, you might be able to crack the top 15.

Most non-top 25 schools aren't worth it unless we're talking about a state school where you can get in-state tuition.

Where should I go next fall? / Re: Cardozo Vs. Seton Hall / Rutgers
« on: June 08, 2007, 03:59:11 PM »
If you're going to choose based on a scholarship, go with the one that has no strings attached. Make sure you read the terms carefully to confirm in fact there are no strings attached.

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