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What is the name of your textbook?  I had the textbook "Global Antitrust Law and Policy" (Elhauge), which covered mostly just U.S. and EU law (with just minor notes on the other stuff), and I just used a typical hornbook (I really liked Hovencamp's black letter outline, even though it exclusively covered U.S. law -- I used it mostly for understanding the underlying economic rationale, etc.). My impression is that the EC guidelines kind of flow directly from the big U.S. decisions, although there are some key differences... but I thought my textbook highlighted those differences sufficiently.

If the focus is more "comparative" in your course, then I guess i'm not so sure.  Sorry... I can let you know if I come across anything though.

Current Law Students / re: "Entitled" Associates
« on: May 14, 2009, 01:24:33 AM »
At the second tier school I'm at the entitlement thing is really disgusting. I imagine my school isn't even as bad as the norm, but yeah, its like after 1 year of grades, the top students who landed top jobs are "entitled" to everything.. This includes placement on moot court teams, tutoring positions, school-paid trips, easy A's in uncurved courses -- geez, half of the faculty and staff totally buy into it. So its part systematic and part psychological, I guess. And I certainly don't think everyone's like that -- its just a phenomenon that's noticeable. All of the sudden, a few students who seemed normal 1st year think everything's a contest that they have to win, and if they don't, something's not fair because obviously they're better than the others. 

As someone who still gives a darn about school after 2 years (and whose paranoia is perhaps gradually expanding :D) I really felt like some of my classmates were basically messing things up for everyone else on the basis that they felt entitled to school benefits due to their "elite" status. All of the sudden its like there's a lobbying group for people who think they deserve higher grades in a class, and complain that if they don't get the A's, they might lose their big firm job offers.  I am not spiteful - I want people to keep their jobs, but it is rediculous that they think they are entitled to special privileges at the expense of myself and others.  I mean, I might as well write them paychecks if that's the case... oh wait I'm six figures in debt too and major firms aren't even an option, or a "necessary evil" etc. But if someone has that opportunity, they'll fight like hell to maintain it, and expand on it in a number of ways (see above). 

Isn't there an economics principle that the person with more money on the line should always win a dispute? Well, ok, it's something like that...

Current Law Students / starting on a secondary law review in the 3rd year?
« on: February 15, 2009, 07:33:23 PM »
Is it worth it?  No shot at any editorial board positions, I would assume, but do you pick up some skills you'd miss otherwise?

{p.s. sorry this thread is out of place}

Hi, I would greatly appreciate suggestions.

I am taking a class on healthcare provider compliance (so far it is covering medicare and medicaid fraud protection statutes and the like).  I am not having trouble with the law so much as I am understanding how business dynamics work in the medical profession.  (e.g. who are the employees vs. independent contractors in a medical business, how do pharmaceutical co's interact with dr's versus hospitals etc.)  It is hard to describe, but it is tricky.  Maybe I should just pick up a magazine about the field.

Can anyone help?

Current Law Students / Re: What constitutes "good grades"?
« on: February 14, 2009, 05:10:53 PM »
Here's my two cents:

If the average in a curved class is consistently a "B" (3.0) you should consider that combined with the relative weight of uncurved classes, and what you might speculate the approximate average is in those classes.

So if during your first year you have 24 hours worth of curved classes where the avg. is a "B" (3.0) and 6 hours of uncurved classes where the average is an "A-" /3.67, then the median is around a 3.13.

Those uncurved classes are kind of the oddball factor in class rank, in my opinion. 

And the fact that those classes tend to be somewhat controlled during the first year is probably a big reason why the OCI firms, for better or worse, judge students based on first year grades.  /rant

Can anyone throw me something to hurl my faith at?  :-\

Current Law Students / Re: OCI advice for 2Ls.
« on: July 11, 2008, 07:12:30 AM »
Noday cares WHO you are -- its a numbers game, just do a quality job.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Loyola vs. Chi-Kent Hypothetical
« on: December 26, 2007, 11:42:50 AM »
I picked Loyola over Kent --- but $$ was a little better for me at Loyola.

I'd look at classes at both schools and see which one you would rather be at as a student - plain and simple.
I think you'll find the classes are a little smaller and much more conversational at loyola, and their location is really nice. Also their scholarships are easier to keep!! At Kent I think you generally need a 3.25 and at Loyola a 3.0 --- plus loyola's curve / median gpa is significantly higher...

There are a couple things I like about Kent... I think their students and administration might be a little more ambitous career-wise wheareas Loyola is a little more homely and laid back. Also, I found Kent's clinical opportunities and specializations to be more interesting... but conventional wisdom told me not to lean so heavily on those things as a 0L.

In terms of potential for job prospects, there is no real difference --- but I'd say check em both out and go with your gut.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Please be brutally honest!!!!!!!
« on: December 24, 2007, 05:35:38 PM »
you're fine, but as someone who had a 2.8 and a 160, I'd bet you could pull up that lsat a bit...

If not, you'll still make it...

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Is Iowa overrated?
« on: October 20, 2007, 07:40:10 PM »
I don't know how the faculty "rankings" work (not USN -- but doesn't someone out there try to quantify which schools have the most big shot professors??)

I'm starting to realize that having an "all star" prof, who can show you quick and easy ways to know the material is important.  However, I have no idea if anyone can really verify which ones are the best.

It's possible though- at my school I think it is pretty objectified who the BEST professors are. Tt seems to be the TREND that the best profs tend to have graduated from the top schools -- and I'd imagine the best schools hire the best professors...


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