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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Testmasters Screwed Me. Is there hope?
« on: June 21, 2007, 10:32:20 PM »

But you have no understanding how bad these courses can be. I think because all of this came easy to you.


Try again.  I started at 152 and fought my way to a 177 over 6 months time.  Partially with a course combined with a lot of sweat blood tears and determined effort.  Try it out.


You have no understanding. People are different. Some  work best with a tutor. Some work best on their own.

A Kobe Bryant was a terrible basketball player growing until he worked out with older basketball players.



A Tim Duncan  got better in basketball just praticing alone in the gym.  He  was a great swimmer before. Everyone is different.

A good course may help someone get a 177 that would not have got it on their own.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Testmasters Screwed Me. Is there hope?
« on: June 21, 2007, 10:19:55 PM »
Its a dirty little secret you will never  read on this board about testmasters and powerscore stink.

But the guys on this board will just tell you are too dumb.

I am your same boat. I am still getting in the mid 160s.I am scoring low because i usually miss half of the games.


I want to get better at the games but the only advice you will hear on here is buy the games bible. I think the games bible stinks. The games they put in there are too easy and old.

Try something else. Ask people what they took. LIVE PEOPLE. Not Jeffort clowns online.

Joegibbs/primetime,  I have been leaving you alone.  Keep with your crap and I will come down on you like a ton of bricks again.  Get over it.  You are angry.  We get it. 

You offer bad advice. Like most on this board. I have taken powerscore two times like this OP took testmasters twice. The courses stink. Not because their marterial is not good. All LSAT material is basically the same.


They offer no workshops.  And they try to cover everything. For example powerscore only offers 1 lesson on linear games and 1 lesson on grouping, 1 on formal logic and 1 on conditional reasoning.


A good course would combine all these elements so you are getting them  stuck in your mind and you get good at these things going towards the test. Do grouping and linear games every lesson.


Why  have a seperate lesson for mapping, pattern and circular games? And have another lesson for the writing sample and numerical sequence tips.


But you have no understanding how bad these courses can be. I think because all of this came easy to you.

It is not the content. Its the STRUCTURE.  No one should pay 1200 for a course and still struggle with formal logic problems.


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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Testmasters Proctored Diags
« on: June 21, 2007, 10:00:16 PM »
They offer it in their books. And you can get every LSAT online for free. They do not offer every test. Just in their lesson books.  They  sell every test for 199. And have a solutions book for 99 dollars on their website.


Their  course books stink like powerscore. Little explantions other than a few game set ups.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Testmasters Screwed Me. Is there hope?
« on: June 21, 2007, 09:50:54 PM »
Its a dirty little secret you will never  read on this board about testmasters and powerscore stink.

But the guys on this board will just tell you are too dumb.

I am your same boat. I am still getting in the mid 160s.I am scoring low because i usually miss half of the games.


I want to get better at the games but the only advice you will hear on here is buy the games bible. I think the games bible stinks. The games they put in there are too easy and old.

Try something else. Ask people what they took. LIVE PEOPLE. Not Jeffort clowns online.

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lsac seems to have no answers on anything/

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Are you drugged out?

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Opinion about getprepped.com
« on: June 20, 2007, 07:58:39 PM »
Do not ask for advice on message baords. Ask live people. All these guys will say is  TM or PS.

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After reading many old threads, I noticed there might be a thought that for "average" students, students which dont normally perform well on standardized tests (which is my case personally).. , might not benefit from TestMasters or Powerscore. For average students, Kaplan or PR might be better (although the common thought I've also gotten is these 2 are not nearly as good as TM or Power). Just curious if this is a common thought?, or, just some random thing i took away from my reading which isnt really relevant at all. - - If i score in the 140s or below on my fist diagnostic, will TM and Power help me?



You are right. TM and PS do not teach you any timing stragies. And have no workshops where you can ask questions.

They focus more on breaking down the problem amd game. So you may be able to do a game perfectly or a LR problem but it may take 3 mins per LR problem and 11 minutes per game.

That was my problem. So the natrual test taker may benifit more from PS or TM. Kapalan may not be as detailed but at least you will get useful tips on how to do well during the test.

Wouldn't it make sense that if you learn how to go through the proper steps slowly at first and then practice them a lot that you should get better at going through the steps faster and faster as you get more proficient with them?  Maybe something like the more you practice them and ingrain them into your brain the more 'natural' it becomes as you LEARN how to do it.  Like learning to ride a bike.


For some people. For the average person out there  writing every rule during a game twice is just a waste of time. Doing a global set up and trying to think of every inference that can be made takes more than 3 minutes.

Breaking down  each premise on an LR problem will not be useful on the test when time is a factor.


I guess for you the course is great. But it is not greatfor everybody. It seems like you do not understand that.

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After reading many old threads, I noticed there might be a thought that for "average" students, students which dont normally perform well on standardized tests (which is my case personally).. , might not benefit from TestMasters or Powerscore. For average students, Kaplan or PR might be better (although the common thought I've also gotten is these 2 are not nearly as good as TM or Power). Just curious if this is a common thought?, or, just some random thing i took away from my reading which isnt really relevant at all. - - If i score in the 140s or below on my fist diagnostic, will TM and Power help me?



You are right. TM and PS do not teach you any timing stragies. And have no workshops where you can ask questions.

They focus more on breaking down the problem amd game. So you may be able to do a game perfectly or a LR problem but it may take 3 mins per LR problem and 11 minutes per game.

That was my problem. So the natrual test taker may benifit more from PS or TM. Kapalan may not be as detailed but at least you will get useful tips on how to do well during the test.

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I don't see how that is possible, since you sign a statement saying that the only purpose for which you are taking the test is consideration for admission to law school.  If you are already in law school (or finished with it), you would be lying. 

There are other degree programs (law and otherwise) that accept LSAT scores.

Yes i talked to one guy who took the LSAT  5 times. I said how? He said i was mistaken reading the rules.

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