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General Board / Re: Top 10 Percent
« on: June 19, 2009, 02:21:04 PM »
Do read all the reading.
Do brief (book at least) all the cases

Despite your nonchalant facade, you were definitely a PT law school gunner.

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General Board / Re: Top 10 Percent
« on: June 19, 2009, 01:31:40 PM »
Pay attention in class.
Do all of your assigned readings.
Attempt an answer when called.
Outline as semester winds down.
Finish outline, go to review (if applicable), take practice exams.
Take exam.

Just do that. Don't focus on survival or top 10% or whatever.  Do the above and the law school gods will tell you where you stand (which will undoubtedly be above people such as myself who don't do above.) Let the other 0Ls over-analyze law school.

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Law School Applications / Re: Not sure where to apply :/
« on: June 19, 2009, 10:32:55 AM »
If its so bad then why do the students who have his LSAT score and get full scholarships there have a near perfect first time bar passing rate. That's higher than a lot of the so called "better schools".

I would wager that 90%+ 163+ LSAT scorers pass the bar on the first time.  This has little to do with Cooley and much to do with the student's intelligence.  I understand that you are happy with your decision, but OP has little interest in attending the school.

Anybody have thoughts on a part-time program at Chicago Kent? I was doing research and read it's easier to get into a PT program, and it seems to be a good school... Cooley and UDM prospect is just totally depressing me.

Chi-Kent has a decent rep in Chicago but is pricey.  Since most law schools never bother to determine their average GPA (relying instead on their median), your cumulative GPA can be 1.9-2.8 and have virtually the same impact on the school's reported numbers.  With a very strong GPA addendum, you will have nearby T50 acceptances.

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Law School Applications / Re: Not sure where to apply :/
« on: June 18, 2009, 06:53:39 PM »
Cooley has an Honors program where if your LSAT is  over 163 you can get 100% scholarship. Your score was in the 170 range so you're well above that. I'd say go there for FREE the first year and if it blows then try to transfer. Its ABA approved and FREE and in Michigan like you want it to be. Here's a link to explain more on it.

http://cooley.edu/admissions/admhonorsscholarship.htm#new

OP can get a full or near-full scholarship to a significantly better law school.  Cooley has some of the worst job placement numbers of any ABA accredited law school.  OP can do better.

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Law School Applications / Re: Not sure where to apply :/
« on: June 18, 2009, 02:02:05 PM »
How is that bad advice? You just said to apply to all lawschools in michigan. Four of those are Cooley Law schools.

OP says: I'm scared that Cooley will be my only choice, what do I do?
You say: Apply to Cooley!
I say: That isn't particularly helpful.

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Law School Applications / Re: 161 3.4
« on: June 18, 2009, 02:00:07 PM »
I know I can get into GSU, Loyola-Chi and WakeForest.  They all accepted me and I was waitlisted at Wash and Lee.  Everywhere else I was rejected.  So I guess my list is weak on safties bc worst case scenario I suck it up and go to GSU or Loyola, I just don't want to sell myself short.

It sounds as though your applications went exactly as could be expected.  If you are instate for GSU (it sounds like you are) - suck it up and attend this year.  Or, in the alternative, if cost isn't an issue - attend Wake Forest and target work in NC and Atlanta.

You will not do better next year without a better LSAT.

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Law School Applications / Re: Not sure where to apply :/
« on: June 18, 2009, 01:49:34 PM »
It usually only makes sense to apply out of state when the school is one with a national reputation or if you're looking to work elsewhere.  Since you want to stay in Michigan, your best bet would be to attend a law school in the state.  If you're able to get into a good school in a neighboring state that may be an option, but it's probably best to stay within Michigan.

It isn't that simple. There aren't two groups of law schools (National and Local), rather there is a sliding scale between the two points.  OP has a shot at some regional schools that would travel well to Michigan.  OP's list should look like:

Every Michigan Law School
Minnesota
Iowa
IU-B
UIUC
Notre Dame
Wisconsin

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Law School Applications / Re: 161 3.4
« on: June 18, 2009, 01:34:22 PM »
You are not guaranteed admission to SMU, UGA or similar schools as your numbers are just about average, I would say those schools are your targets and not safeties.

(S)he's significantly below both SMU FTs gpa and lsat medians.

I thought SMU was 154/165 for LSAT, "median" LSAT at SMU being 159.5.

These 25/75 numbers include part-time as well.  SMUs FT numbers are huge (and climbing).

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Law School Applications / Re: 161 3.4
« on: June 18, 2009, 12:39:42 PM »
You are not guaranteed admission to SMU, UGA or similar schools as your numbers are just about average, I would say those schools are your targets and not safeties.

(S)he's significantly below both SMU FTs gpa and lsat medians.

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Law School Applications / Re: 161 3.4
« on: June 18, 2009, 12:21:56 PM »
Various thoughts:

SMU is pretty reachy with your numbers.
Add more safeties.
Why Loyola-Chi?  Expensive with little placement in your home regions.
UF and GSU are good targets.  If you are comfortable with UF, why not tack on FSU.
University of Houston needs to be added to the list.
Send your apps to WashU and GW if you wish, but both are super reachy and expensive - and do not place particularly well in your home region.
Tulane would be a decent target - although a scholarship is unlikely and the school is $$$.
Texas Tech would be a great safety.

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