« on: April 13, 2007, 11:22:05 AM »
Life is hell. Nonexistence is arguably more pleasant than existence even in the best of circumstances.
clearly, you don't believe that.
Clearly? False. I do believe that. What's your evidence to the contrary?
My evidence is that you haven't killed yourself. If you really believed it, you'd be gone by now.
1. See "arguably."
2. Still doesn't follow. Why not? Because (a) it would be painful (and there is no guarantee of success--this is often the case, and tends to be disastrous) and (b) nonexistence can't be isolated (i.e. because I exist my future nonexistence through suicide, even if qualifying as nonexistence, would cause suffering for people I don't care to cause to suffer).
1. Well, if you really want to emphasize "arguably", then you're not saying much since most things are arguable.
2. Then you're back to my point where, at best, you can only decide that for yourself.
Causing people to suffer? That doesn't even apply. You're smarter than this. The fetus doesn't suffer. The mother chooses to abort her pregnancy because she will suffer less by doing that than by continuing it. How is the analogy at all meaningful or relevant?
That's not what I was getting at. I shouldn't have bolded so much. I should have just bolded the "I." The point was that your subjective desires affect the pleasantness.
By the way, who are you--thinking you can talk to me with that tone?
Edit: I can't believe I didn't realize it was you.