Law School Discussion

1. What does applicant data have to do with anything?  This is just ludicrous.
2. HLS is indeed starting a full-time SCOTUS clinic.  They had a winter-term one but now it's full semester.
3. It's unclear to me why percentages matter at all.  What matters is what percentage of students who apply from a school get a clerkship, what percentage get their top choice, etc.  Even then, if there's an in-house filtering process at one school and not another, that might not even be that important.4. You can't deduce SCOTUS clerkship numbers from this data.  The data are out there somewhere.
5. Conventional wisdom is that Yale is the best place for clerks, then H and C, then S.

This is the what I meant by applicants.  I was wondering if anyone knew how many people from each school actually applied for the clerkships.  I see how that could be confusing if you took it to mean the other way.

Can anyone introduce me to Tony or Vinny?  I need $4,000 tomorrow.

 
yeah, but there may come a time....

So here's some info I found on Supreme Court Clerkships.  Does everyone think that this indicates that you're really more likely to get a Supreme Court clerkship from Yale, University of Chicago or Stanford based upon percentages than Harvard?  Are these numbers close enough that it may just be a matter of more Harvard graduates wanting other jobs?  Does anyone have any data on the number of applicants from each school?  Anectdotal evidence about clerkship support at these schools is welcome, too.

Please discuss.

School                    Total#   Typical     Est. #   Percentage

of clerks   Class   Students

1   Harvard University           128   550   8250   0.015515152

2   Yale University           100   200   3000   0.033333333

3   University of Chicago   65   200   3000   0.021666667

4   Stanford University   42   150   2250   0.018666667

5   Columbia University   32   400   6000   0.005333333
6   University of Michigan   21   350   5250   0.004
7   University of Virginia   19   350   5250   0.003619048
8   New York University   16   400   6000   0.002666667
9   Berkeley                     12   250   3750   0.0032
10   Univ. of Texas, Austin   11   450   6750   0.00162963

School's budget - your EFC = how much you can borrow in Stafford loans; with a limit of $18.5K. 

Still need money?  Then you can go to a major bank and borrow a loan up to the cost of your school's budget - your EFC - your Stafford loans and any scholarships. 
These  loans have APRs that are set by the government (right now around 8%) and the difference comes down to the incentives offered by the bank; for example, APR drops .5 if you do auto-payment, etc.

Need more money above the school's budget?  You may be eligible for a TERI loan which is up to $30K for up to 3 years. 
These APRs are tied to your credit score, and will generally require a cosigner with a full-time job.

For example, if your school budgets 40K, but your EFC is 30K, you can only borrow 10K in Stafford loans.  If you can't pay your 3OK EFC, you'll have to borrow from a bank. 

If your school budgets 40K, but your EFC is 0.  You can get 18.5K in Stafford loans and will need to borrow 21.5K from a bank.

Good to know.  Boss, have you worked at a Financial Aid office before?  I've seen a few of your posts and they all seem to have really good info.

Scalia seems the most interesting, but Roberts as CJ would presumably write more opinions = more opportunities for clerks (maybe?)