« on: September 22, 2008, 08:46:24 AM »
since Obama is a first in terms of either party, it is erroneous to assume that latinos and asians are not registered democrats, they simply haven't been faced with this reality before. the very term swing voter implies that they will have an influence on the outcome of the election. these biased latinos and asians may well swing the election McCain's way.
I must have been unclear.
I didn't say Asians and Latinos were not Democrats. I said those Asians and Latinos who have very strong prejudices against African Americans are not Democrats because the Democratic party has been identified for at least the last 25 years (however erroneously) as a party that gives handouts to African Americans or apologizes for the so-called cultural problems in black communities. White racists have also left the Democratic party for the same reason. However, some have stayed behind because of their union membership or other long-term historical connections to the party (which most racist Asians and Latinos do not have). For some of these racist white Democrats, Obama's race will be enough to push them to vote Republican or third-party in this election. They are the swing voters: once Democratic, now possibly Republican.
With respect to institutional racism, you seemed earlier to be referring to the racism of individual decisionmakers who have some kind of power in an institution. If you weren't, I apologize. I can't comprehend how you could understand what institutional racism is and not believe it exists. I am not, however, interested in discussing it with you because I find your views on race and racism, generally, to be misinformed or offensive.
how can you say "i am not in the slightest bit uncomfortable talking about racial bias in any form" and then say something like "I find your views on race and racism...offensive" and "i am not...interested in discussing [racism] with you". seems incongruous. what you should say is that like most white liberals you feel great slamming white men but when the specter of black, latino or asian racism raises its head you want no part of the discussion. i'll repeat my point again. latinos and asians have never had to make a choice about a black candidate before. most of them are registered democrats. given the choice i think many of them will either stay home or vote for McCain. by many, i mean enough to make a difference in a close election. period. end of point.
incidentally MissP, i've watched with some interest how you routinely attempt to correct people on matters of opinion (ridiculous, how can you correct an opinion after all?) and rather condescendingly attempt to correct people about word usage (see institutional racism) when that person is actually using the word correctly. your cite to an unchecked wiki article which happens to mirror my definition of institutional racism makes your attempted correction all the sillier. i think i speak for most when i say that i am not wowed by your forms of argumentation. your favorite technique seems to be opening with something like: "perhaps i wasn't clear" or "maybe i'm not picking up what your dropping" before rambling off in ways that confirm the prefatory statement. also i think you waste way too much of your precious puff on these boards. get a life.