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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Depaul or Howard
« on: April 07, 2007, 01:52:26 PM »
Are you black? If not, DePaul.


I agree- not that Howard isn't a good school because it's a great school and I was a little sad that I got rejected but your best chance at getting a big job after Howard would be if you were black

No offense, but that's ridiculous.  White students DO go to Howard, you know, and are not at any greater disadvantage for getting jobs because they went to a school that has a large minority population.

What SHOULD factor in your decision is: Where you want to practice, the school's bar passage rate, the cost, and obviously, whether the school has the programs you're looking for.


Actually it's not ridiculous. There are a lot of other threads on here about the same subject and I stand by my comment- a lot of the BIG law firms that recruit from Howard do so because it is a HBCU and they are looking for minorities. I'm not saying that if you are in the top 10% at howard you wont get a good job if your white but chances are those firms already found their non-minorites at harvard and yale and are going to howard to fill what they need

It is ridiculous.  I know white Howard grads.  They got good jobs.  I think you're treading on dangerous territory saying that you should only consider Howard if you're black.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: hofstra vs new york law school
« on: April 07, 2007, 01:46:49 PM »
I don't think you should wait.  If your goal is to go to a school like Fordham, then maybe.  But you'll find a job from Hofstra.  If a large firm is your goal, just be near the top 10% of your class and you're in.

I think at 39K a year, plus NYC cost of living, NYLS is a rip-off.  Plus, they dinged me, so screw 'em!  :D  Yes, I'm bitter, but hey, I think that Albany's a much better school.

So inconclusion, don't wait, and go to Hofstra.

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Suffolk is a very underrated school, and I think that it is indeed better than NESL.  Having said that, the lawyers I know who went to NESL all spoke well of their experience there.

I would choose Suffolk, for one more reason that you may not have even considered yet:  You may find that your interests change after some time in law school.  What if you realize that you were BORN to do intellectual property?  It could happen...so with that in mind, I think Suffolk will prepare you for work as a lawyer, generally speaking.

And yes, the Suffolk network in Boston (and RI) is huge.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Depaul or Howard
« on: April 06, 2007, 02:24:05 PM »
Are you black? If not, DePaul.


I agree- not that Howard isn't a good school because it's a great school and I was a little sad that I got rejected but your best chance at getting a big job after Howard would be if you were black

No offense, but that's ridiculous.  White students DO go to Howard, you know, and are not at any greater disadvantage for getting jobs because they went to a school that has a large minority population.

What SHOULD factor in your decision is: Where you want to practice, the school's bar passage rate, the cost, and obviously, whether the school has the programs you're looking for.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Suffolk or Albany?
« on: April 02, 2007, 02:19:43 PM »
and what do these sources say about pace?

lol.

lol backatcha. I didn't ask about Pace per se, but the Dean at my undergrad school (RI College) spoke well of Pace, and spoke of an old friend of his from Princeton(!) who completely bombed on his LSATS and ended up at Pace (this was back in the late 70s, when Pace may have had NO reputation to speak of.  But he said that his friend does well.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Suffolk or Albany?
« on: April 02, 2007, 02:03:43 PM »
I was impressed with Albany as well on my visit. The campus has an allure to it, and their admissions director makes a tremendous pitch. Was tough to choose Pace, but sometimes you have to go with your gut. I've forged a few relationships up there.

FWIW, I wound up not applying to Suffolk, because of cost concerns suppred by Boston. THAT was a tough call, because Suffolk is sorely underrated.

For me if Suffolk came back with a yes (which I call and they say I'm still in committee) it would be down to Pace and them. (my dad went to Suffolk).



Well, for me, being on the WL, I'm not even sure how easy it would be to get offered a seat.  Suffolk is VERY underrated, no question.  Then again, I've talked to NYC lawyers who say the same thing about ALS grads.  They seem to "know their stuff," according to my sources. :P

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Suffolk or Albany?
« on: April 02, 2007, 01:51:11 PM »
Yup, ALS puts a third in NYC. A quarter of their grads work in/on government/municipal in some capacity.

The environmental law thing with Pace, for me, distingiuishes the school this way: because env ironemntal is so interdisciplinary, I bet it has the effect of making thier first-year instruction (propoerty, contracts, torts) unusually strong and perhaps also bolsters its commcercial, litigation, science/tech/health, governmental and even IP instruction. That's the sense I get -- that I'm getting a lot more than tree-hugging Veganism.  :-)



A good point.  I like the idea of tying Environmental to Land Use, myself.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Suffolk or Albany?
« on: April 02, 2007, 01:49:35 PM »
I think I am taking Pace over Albany as well.

But my mind could change.

I was very impressed with Albany upon visiting their open house in March...what are you looking for in a school, specifically?

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Suffolk or Albany?
« on: April 02, 2007, 01:34:12 PM »
Albany's bar passage rate went up to 88%, actually. I just chose Pace over Albany -- VERY hard decision to make. But I chose Pace for its proximity to NYC and because it offered me a little bit of money. It surprised me, btw that neither school made it to T2, what with their bar passage increases and trends toward more competitive classes and stronger clinics. 

I think Pace is good as well, especially for Environmental Law, but a far as NYC goes, ALS's career center reports that a third of recent grads have gone down to NYC.  I'm sure that these were top students.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: BC vs. BU
« on: April 02, 2007, 01:15:33 PM »
Again, we are not talking BC v. Suffolk or BU v. Northeastern, in both of those scenarios law school does likely play a large role in whether or not you can get a clerkship.


Especially true considering the fact that Northeastern doesn't even publish a law review, membership of which, as I understand it, is essential to landing a good clerkship...

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