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With your numbers you'll only get into Cooley. But they'll probably throw some money at you.

You're kidding, right? With his prac #'s he's looking at t14 easy, depending on his GPA.

Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: John Marshall Chicago reviews?
« on: June 24, 2007, 05:33:19 PM »
I concur with your sentiments. No worries, the theme on a preponderance of these threads in the law school discussion boards is scathing 'haterade' hence I was just jousting JMLS to see if anyone had anything positive to say on it and you and another did.

Any advice whether brutally cold or sympathetically warm is appreciated.

I visited JMLS in March and was impressed.   And their IP, moot court and appellate advocacy programs are very good, if trial law is your thing.  Many judges in the area went there.  So I think it has the makings of a good school.

However, with a 150 and a 2.9, full-time admission to JMLS is not guaranteed.  I'm not sure what the part-time numbers are.  I would re-take it.

The LSAT is by no means a measure of your eventual skills as a lawyer, but unfortunately, because so many schools (and thus applicants) buy into its importance, a good score at least 150 to 155 is probably necessary for a white caucasian male with a mediocre GPA to be accepted to an ABA-accredited law school, barring any extraordinary life circumstances.  So that's my advice.  Check out my LSN page; I think you'll find that I speak from experience.

I have limited computer knowledge and will be purchasing my first laptop within the next month for my 1L.  I like the idea that with MACS I'd be less inclined to catch a computer virus, yet I think that the PC would obviously be more compatible.  Any thoughts?

Non-Traditional Students / mac or pc laptop for law school?
« on: June 21, 2007, 03:13:40 PM »
Any advantages/drawbacks for either for law students?

Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: John Marshall Chicago reviews?
« on: June 21, 2007, 03:11:16 PM »
Best school in Chicago for trial advocacy, along with Kent.  Lots of alumni.  JMLS is pretty much the Chicago equivalent of what Suffolk is in boston, a good, regional school that happens to be the bottom feeder because of it's competition.  New York Law School suffers the same fate in Manhattan.

Where should I go next fall? / Re: Albany Law 2010 thread
« on: June 21, 2007, 02:40:35 PM »
I found a studio apartment on the corner of Madison & robin for around $600 w/ heat.  It's tiny, but only about 1/3 mile from the law school.  I guess I'm just used to getting a bit more for my $$ as is the case in Providence.  I'm sure I'll find some thing better for next year...But yeah, I'm totally psyched to begin school.

Where should I go next fall? / Albany Law 2010 thread
« on: June 07, 2007, 01:01:13 PM »
Any other folks starting their 1L at ALS this August?  Heard good things? Bad? How has the apartment hunt in the state capitol been for you?

Some thoughts on my end:

1.  The students I spoke to all said they had a good experience there, but didn't care for the administration.

2. I went to the school on Tuesday, and there were a lot of students there cramming for bar review.  All looked as though their heads were about to pop.

3.  the apartments around the law school area are inexpensive, but many are decrepit, esp. around Lark Street.

4.  You don't get to pick your section/professor for other schools do this?

5.  You seem to need to be in the top 20% at least to get a job in NYC.

6.  The school hosted Alan Dershowitz as well as Ralph Nader last year.

Where should I go next fall? / Re: Retake a 169 for UPenn?
« on: May 29, 2007, 02:55:58 PM »
Well, June is a bit of an exaggeration of course, if you haven't heard anything past April you're very likely on a wait list. But I can't see why you'd commit to a lesser school before April if you believe you have a chance at Penn, which I'd say you certainly do. Only reason I could see to that is big $$$ from some decent school.

if i don't get into Penn i'm gonna go to temple or villanova b/c i wanna stay in the i guess it's fine to b on the waitlist and not commit to one of those schools since its not like i have to worry about moving to another place or anything by a certain date and needing to make a decision

You would probably get a free ride or close to it from both other schools.  There's also Rutgers Camden which is a mile from Philly.  You'll easily get $$$ from them.

Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Vermont Law School, need info
« on: May 26, 2007, 03:33:13 PM »
I think that their general practice clinic is a great idea.

Where should I go next fall? / Re: John Marshall Job opportunities
« on: May 16, 2007, 04:14:45 PM »
I spoke today with a recent JM grad who works at a midsize Chicago firm as a lawyer where I intern.  He thinks that JM's rep has gone down over the past ten years and says that JM is harder and more competitive than the better Chicago schools (DePaul, Kent, NW...) because you need to be in the top 15% to land a decent job.  I too have been teetering between Chicago and California schools and he strongly recommends California, as does every other lawyer at the firm that I've talked to.  My only issue is that California would be way more expensive than Chicago.  But Chicago weather sucks 7 months out of the year so I dunno.

Eh,if you have to choose a 4th tier school I'd pick the one that doesn't have to compete w/T-14, T1, and T2 grads. If a state only has one school and it's a T3, it's probably easier to get a job out of that school than a T4 that competes w/a T2, and two T-14's.

Excellent point.  Albany is a great example.  Only law school in the state capitol of one of the largest economies in the US.  There is guarenteed work, and you have the first crack at it by being there.  Interestingly, i've seen there students even land some Summer associate slots at NYC biglaw.  Anyway, nice laid back lifestyle and super-low cost of living.  I was really tempted by some $$ they threw out.  While I passed on the school, I think it's a great example of a T3 that could put you into a really nice life.

Good to hear....I'm trying to decide between JM and ALS myself.  I don't consider USNWR when it comes to anything past the top 100, and JM ranks nationally in trial ad, int. prop, and legal writing.  Albany has the afforementioned advantages that you brought up.  So yes, it's a tough choice.

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