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Where should I go next fall? / I'm not getting in anyhwere
« on: February 25, 2007, 12:14:49 AM »
I've applied to ten schools

U. Wisconsin
Brooklyn
Loyola Chicago (rejected)
Depaul (rejected)
St. John's
Rutgers Newark
John Marshall
Albany
Suffolk
New York Law

I am 30.  I did terribly on my first degree (2.1) from 2000.  I went into the workforce, re-entered school in 2004 or a 2nd bachelor's degree in Poli Sci, have earned a 3.6, along with internships, community sevice, and work at a non-profit for an immigration attorney.

my lsat is 155.

Yet the more I'm told, schools simply don't care about who I am NOW.  They're just gonna look at who I was ten years ago, and base their decision on that.  I always regarded Albany, Sufolk, JMLS, and NYLS as safeties, but upon further reflection I don't think that I stand a chance at any of them.

I've indicated to all above schools that I'm willing to go PT if neccesary, but even then, i don't know.

I'm sending out last-minute apps to Pace, NESL, and RWU just to be sure I'll go somewhere...

THOUGHTS?!

It's too bad... I'd kill to attend Albany.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Lied on my Resume! please advise
« on: February 24, 2007, 12:01:02 PM »
All I know is that now I'm starting to think that I'll get denied from every single school...arrgh!  Well, Roger Williams takes apps until 4/15...

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Lied on my Resume! please advise
« on: February 23, 2007, 11:32:33 PM »
If your file has not been reviewed yet, then simply ask them to replace your resume. Fix the mistake before it becomes a problem.

If you have been reviewed and accepted, I think you are unfortunately in a position where you need to withdraw. However, I might contact the schools say, "I admit that I inappropriately expanded upon my resume in a dishonest way and feel that I need to withdraw in order to enter school on my own merits and with a clear conscience."

I dunno, dude, but what a sh*tty situation. You clearly feel terrible about it, which I think is the most important part. And just so you know, I messed up something on my application, but came clean about it the instant I realized my mistake, and every school was extremely forgiving. Remember, the most important part of C&F is showing that you haven't lied or tried to deliberately cover up any aspect of your professional or academic life. Many lawyers are rejected because they lied about an aspect they were nervous about, but that would have easily not been a big deal if they hadn't lied.

I had a discrepancy on my resume, and today sent an addendum to all remaining schools, and explained that it was an honest mistake, and that I wrote the addendu in the spirit of full disclosure.

Who knows?  Some schools may say that it's sketchy and deny, but others may be forgiving and understand that it was an honest mistake, which it was...  At least I never have to worry about inconsistencies when I take the bar exam in 3 1/2 years.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Lied on my Resume! please advise
« on: February 22, 2007, 09:10:59 PM »
I am feeling the OP's pain, seriously.  Without having ever actually taken a bar exam at this early stage, i can only imagine that it IS a  holistic process, and while the examiners do indeed look at your employment history very closely, it in no way compares to, say, lying about a felony or misdemeanor charge.

Example: I was a bit hazy regarding my "minor traffic violations," in that I just listed the couple of speeding tickets that I could remember off the top of my head, but am now in the process of providing EVERY ticket, with dates, just to be on the side of disclosure.  As far as employment dates are concerned, I just rounded off to nearest firsts of the month.  This seems completely reasonable, and I can't imagine that the Bar Examiners would regard that as knowingly dishonest.

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I had an intern at work (female african american) who transfered from Southern New england school of Law to American after her first year.  Not too shabby.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: TIER 5 Law Schools Made Here
« on: February 20, 2007, 01:30:56 AM »

Y'know...not only should tier 5 not exist, but TIER-4 is questionable to me too.  Why is Suffolk on the fourth tier?  They've got one of the best legal networks in New England!  I think it has more to do with the relative scruffiness of their undergrad and reg. grad programs...

And FYI:  Don't be so quick to knock Roger Williams.  it's a VERY young school and is moving in a better direction every year.

1. Suffolk has the best legal network in NE? Honestly? Just because hordes of graduates are unable to move out of the region does not = best legal network. 
2. Roger Williams is moving in a direction, and that direction is down. It is a festering TTT in decline.



I never said it had THE BEST, just "one of the best," i.e. on a par with BC and BU, locally speaking.  THE BEST would obviously be the big H, but that's neither here nor there.

I understand that law schools are parochial, but having said that, if you want to stay in the NE area, you're just as good at Suffolk as any of the higher ranked schools in Boston.  I really don't think that can be argued.  Well, of course it CAN, but...

And RWU isNOT "in decline..."  It's only about 15 yrs old!  Not all schools can have the rapid rise that, say, Cardozo has enjoyed, and I'm sure that part of the reason for that is that it's in the NYC area, where ALL the kids who didn't get into NYU, Columbia and Fordham still want to be.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: best caliber T3 schools?
« on: February 20, 2007, 01:24:28 AM »
How about Albany?  Solid network and as a 3L recently posted, 88% bar passage last year.

i have heard negative things about albany - to me only syracuse seems like a good t3 out of the NY schools

what negative things have you heard?  I'm applied there and I think it looks like a school I might want to go to...

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Georgetown part-time blues
« on: February 20, 2007, 01:22:58 AM »
yeah, but at this point, I don't hink my 155 lsat will get me in the PT program, even though I have a decent GPA, am 30 yrs old, and have a lot of WE.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: northeastern
« on: February 19, 2007, 08:42:53 PM »
i have a good friend who got a 75K scholarship to Suffolk, and a 25K to Northeastern...I frankly recommended Suffolk.  It's network is FAR better; it has a law review; it's moot court team kicks Harvard's ass on occasion (and MAN does that gotta feel good!), and they give GRADES, which will probably make employers more apt to give you a fair look.

I see the disadvantage of the co-op this way:  sure you get experience, but at the cost of the law school experience itself.  You don't really know your classmates, and as I understand it, they don't even participate in regional moot court competitions.

I'm interested in PI too, but who can afford it with >100K in debt?

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: TIER 5 Law Schools Made Here
« on: February 19, 2007, 08:34:54 PM »
OK here is your chance to make your very own TIER 5.

List all of the schools that you would consider TIER 5 if it were to exist.

1. Cooley
2. roger williams
3. texas southern

just for starters.



Y'know...not only should tier 5 not exist, but TIER-4 is questionable to me too.  Why is Suffolk on the fourth tier?  They've got one of the best legal networks in New England!  I think it has more to do with the relative scruffiness of their undergrad and reg. grad programs...

And FYI:  Don't be so quick to knock Roger Williams.  it's a VERY young school and is moving in a better direction every year.

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