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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: CUNY Queens College School of Law
« on: April 27, 2008, 02:43:55 PM »
CUNY is primarily a school for students wishing to pursue a career in public interest.  The tuition is very low, which helps make that possible.  My friend is very pleased there, but again, he has no interest in big firm work.  For PI, I think it's a good way to go.

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At the same time, the grant does make a big difference.  COL in Springfield will be higher in Boston, no matter what COA says.  Debt is a huge handicap to doing what you want to do and being happy, so take that in mind.

Good Luck!

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Go for NESL, unless you desire to work in western mass/NY capitol reigon/vermont.  I'd rather live in Boston.  Plus, have you been to Springfield?

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NYU without question.  If it was between Columbia and Cardozo/Brooklyn I's understand.  But you'll be just as well off, and if you're into govt., it's a complete no-brainer.  Good luck!!!

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Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Tier 3 rankings
« on: April 22, 2008, 12:42:19 PM »
And btw, I hadn't realized that Suffolk was SO far down in the t3 rankings.  Sheds a little more light on the Northeastern v. Suffolk discussion in my eyes. 

FWIW, I believe that Suffolk is a criminally underrated school.  Their grads are all over the area.  I think that problem is just that they have a lot of students and a night program, not to mention that they're in the shadow of three giants (and of course one mega-giant).  From what lawyers in Boston have said to me, they've been more impressed with Suffolk grads as of late than Northeastern.

Remember:  Anything past, like, the top 50, and you're at regional schools.  Visit them and pick the one that works best for you.

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I like Albany quite a bit, if it means anything.  I think it's just as good as Syracuse, if not better.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Rutgers Newark vs. St. John's
« on: April 05, 2008, 08:22:31 PM »
Hi,

I'd like to point out that if PI work is the OP's goal...Newark probably has amazing opportunities, especially with Mayor Cory Booker, who is proving himself to be one of the most innovative mayors of what seemed like an utterly doomed city.  I didn't get into RN or St. John's, and while I'm very happy at Albany, I wish I could have gone to Rutgers.  However, in retrospect, I feel that I'm getting just as good if not a better legal education at Albany than I would at St. Johns, rank notwithstanding.

St. John's history is an interesting one, though.  The reason that Cuomo and Rangell went there way back when was that school's like Columbia and NYU weren't as apt to accept Jews, Italians, Catholics, or African-Americans as today.  So back then it was like an incubator for outstanding ethnic attorneys.  Howard certainly was like that decades ago.

Lower tuition + an amazing loan repayment program=advantage RN.  That is, if you're interested in PI like me.

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Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Albany Law School
« on: April 05, 2008, 02:59:58 PM »
How does Albany compare to Pace and NYLS?  Basically the same??

Well I've never visited either one nor do I know anyone from those schools, so I really can't compare.  From what I understand Pace has an excellent Environmental Law Program.

I imagine that your opportunities for internships/jobs etc are better here because of its location in NY's capitol.  You also don't have the competition that students from NYC schools have to deal with.  If all you're concerned about is rank (and you should not be) they're the same.  But I'm very happy here.  The school has an impressive alumni list; two SCOTUS Justices, President McKinley, many NY State judges/politicians.  The current US Atty for the Southern District of NY is Albany. A higher % of District Attorneys in NY are from ALbany Law than any other school.

But remember, it's all what you make of it. 

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Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Albany Law School
« on: April 01, 2008, 08:50:31 PM »
I'm currently a 1L at Albany and have this to say:

PRO:

1. Great professors, great career center
2. Tons of internship opportunities; good clinics; field placement, etc...
3. Well-respected in the region
4. For private, it's one of the lesser-priced law schools in NY, esp. considering the low COL
5. Decent town

CON:

1. Like most T3, be in the top 10 to 20% for prestigious (read: ADA or clerkship) or high-paying gigs, or gigs in NYC.
2. Tuition goes up a bit every year (like most schools, I suppose)
3. B- to C+ curve first year (this is ROUGH)

That being said, the leaps and bounds this school has made in the past several years is amazing.  It's 75% LSAT several years ago is now its 25% LSAT.  That's akin to moving mountains.  The office of enrollment feels that in terms of what the school offers, it's actually a better school than some of its NYC competitors, but that its location holds it back rank wise. It's on the verge of T2, I think.

Hope this helps.

I'm trying to understand how curves work, and I just visited ALS this week, and my tour guide said that it had a B- C+ curve as well... What does this mean?  Is this like a bell curve where the majority get C+s and B-s and the rest taper off on both sides?

Exactly.  The curve is less harsh in your 2L & 3L year.



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Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Albany Law School
« on: March 20, 2008, 08:34:38 AM »
I'm currently a 1L at Albany and have this to say:

PRO:

1. Great professors, great career center
2. Tons of internship opportunities; good clinics; field placement, etc...
3. Well-respected in the region
4. For private, it's one of the lesser-priced law schools in NY, esp. considering the low COL
5. Decent town

CON:

1. Like most T3, be in the top 10 to 20% for prestigious (read: ADA or clerkship) or high-paying gigs, or gigs in NYC.
2. Tuition goes up a bit every year (like most schools, I suppose)
3. B- to C+ curve first year (this is ROUGH)

That being said, the leaps and bounds this school has made in the past several years is amazing.  It's 75% LSAT several years ago is now its 25% LSAT.  That's akin to moving mountains.  The office of enrollment feels that in terms of what the school offers, it's actually a better school than some of its NYC competitors, but that its location holds it back rank wise. It's on the verge of T2, I think.

Hope this helps.

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