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Current Law Students / Honest Scholarship Answers
« on: April 01, 2007, 02:19:50 PM »
I am hoping someone can help me.  I have been giving a full tuition scholarship to Michigan State University and I really want to know how many people lose it after the first year.  The terms of the scholarship is a 3.0 GPA, and they tell me they curve at a 2.91 or so and therefore it should be easy to keep.  The administration and random students at open house say only about 20-30% lose their scholarship.  However, the Princeton Review Law School book says that student's say that they do the "bait and switch" tactic and as few as 1 in 5 actually keep their scholarship.

How do I figure out what is true?  I want to trust the school and students, but should I actually trust the princeton review student response?  Is there any way I can find out for sure?

Current Law Students / Re: Political Science Advantage...
« on: March 29, 2007, 07:25:24 AM »
Hey Norman,

I have a Master's degree in political science and I don't think I will have that much advantage over those who don't for a number of reasons.  First, there are many different areas to study within the discipline of political science including political theory, the institutions (presidency, congress, courts), political behavior/public opinion, comparative politics, international politics, public law, etc.  Some of these topics are relevant, but in the undegraduate classes you don't go into a major analysis and critique of the works.  Also, I believe having a liberal arts degree is a double edged sword.  In one way it is good because you write very often.  However, the writing style is often long and verbose with much extraneous information.  My understanding is that if you write like this on a test, you will do bad.  Therefore, I think you don't have to worry at all.  If you feel that you don't even have a rudimentary understanding of how government operates, I teach political science at a university and would be happy to recommend some good books.  You can just pm me.

Michigan State U / Re: Fall 2007 1Ls
« on: March 28, 2007, 11:31:48 PM »
I guess I should officially come on this board and say that I have made my decision to go to MSU as well.  Thanks for the $$$ and computer MSU and for moving to tier 3 the day I sent my deposit check in!! Who else is going to MSU??

Current Law Students / Re: Wayne (50% tuition) v. MSU (Full ride)
« on: March 28, 2007, 04:00:05 PM »
Hey Molaw,

There is no way US News found out or it would clearly be a tier 2 not 3.  Arrogance aside, that is really good news for MSU.  I sent in my deposit the morning before I found out so it was a very pleasant suprise.

Anyway, I hope I can find some good accomadations there. I checked out Owen Hall, but it is very small and I think I would feel absolutely cramped.

I think you should call your parents and have them come talk to the administration about it, since you sound like a child.
How about you act like an adult and suck it up. Everybody else in your class is dealing with the same thing. It's the product of unfortunate circumstances, that's life and you need to learn to deal with it before you have to go out into the big bad world on your own.

Very helpful advice isn't it.  Johns, you must be a stellar student because your insight and the way you handle people is very uplifting.  I agree that everyone is in the same situation and therefore it really shouldn't effect the curve; however, I am sure the extra stress of not knowing what will show up on the final is not needed. 

Current Law Students / Re: Wayne (50% tuition) v. MSU (Full ride)
« on: March 27, 2007, 12:46:11 PM »
Congrats Evan,

I really do think MSU will make a name for itself in the next couple of years.  Despite the low Bar passage rates from a few years back, it really is a tier 2 school and has the potential to be there soon.  I think a couple of us should get together and have our own study group so that we can ensure we keep our scholarship. 

Anyone know some nice and quiet areas to live in that aren't too expensive and are close enough to the law school at MSU? 

Current Law Students / Re: Oklahoma City University vs. Ave Maria
« on: March 27, 2007, 07:43:03 AM »
Probably Oklahoma City because Ave Maria is moving to Florida.  The Florida market is pretty tough because there are already quite a few schools in that area with solid reputations. 

Current Law Students / Re: Wayne (50% tuition) v. MSU (Full ride)
« on: March 25, 2007, 09:14:31 PM »
Hey Molaw,

I think we still have to, but let me know.  On mine I believe it said that there was a $200 tuition deposit due the 1st and a $500 dollar one due the 15th.  Anyway, I too will be sending in those deposits.  I was really impressed with the program and left thinking that I could maintain the GPA and since I want to do government law would be in the perfect place.  Maybe we will be in the same section.  Congratulations on your decision.

Current Law Students / Re: Wayne (50% tuition) v. MSU (Full ride)
« on: March 24, 2007, 10:00:40 PM »
Hey Molaw,

What did you think of the program at MSU?  I ended up liking it a lot more than I thought I would and actually have changed my thinking.  I talked to three people all of whom told me the average GPA for 1L's was about a 2.94.  I don't know if it is completely accurate and I heard that they might actually lump together a lot of the scholarship students into the same section (not sure if true), and I don't know if the people I talked to actually gave me an accurate assessment, but it was pretty reassuring.  Let me know what you think about everything?

Current Law Students / Re: Wayne (50% tuition) v. MSU (Full ride)
« on: March 23, 2007, 11:13:45 AM »
Hey Molaw,

Have fun at the Canadian Brass thing tonight and I will see you at the scholarship breakfast.  This has been a great week, scholarship lunch thursday at Wayne, scholarship dinner tonight at Toledo, and scholarship breakfast at MSU on Saturday.  That's one full scholarship meal in three days.  I should apply to law school more often.  Anyway, have fun and see you tomorrow. 

Good luck with your answers Evan.  I sat at a table that had an evening student as well because he was an engineer.  He said that the evening students are mostly engineers and people going into IP.  I also know someone who was in the evening program and now does labor relations for the city of Detroit.  There are some good opportunities in the evening program because most of the evening faculty are coming from legal jobs during the day.  Good luck with your decision.

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