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Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: Life as a Summer Associate
« on: June 08, 2009, 01:09:12 PM »
[picks up phone] "Hey summer coordinator, I need a summer associate in my office for a research memo."
"We'll send one right over."
"Great, thanks."

[in walks summer associate] "Mr. Sands they said you wanted to see me."
"Yes, sit down. I see you brought a pad & pen with you.  Good.  Here's what I need you to do..."

[Sands grins evil grin upon realizing that, for the next 10 weeks, he no longer has to search lexis or westlaw]


You actually had them call you "Mr."?

Sweet, I can't wait!

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Man, speaking of folks that advocate this stuff, my publisher wants me to in my book. (oh,BTW, ya'll know how me and A joke about my writing a book ; well I actually wrote one). He wants me to advocate that BS! He says our way of looking at summer prep makes us sound like a bunch of hippies and that there is no diff in one's abilities between the summer b4 law school and a few weeks in. I feel like I'd be selling out if I cave.

He can't be serious.

Have your average "Pre Law" College Grad. (A joke within itself) ready Pennoyer vs. Neff a month b4 law school and then have someone read it a month after law school.

You'll get completely different responses.

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  • I will study the summer before law school and be ahead of my class

The only thing worst than people who actually think this are the people who ADVOCATE this kinda crap!

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Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: Life as a Summer Associate
« on: June 04, 2009, 09:37:09 PM »
Doc review as a summer?  I should hope not...run away from that job.

2Ls get the jobs typically through on-campus interviews.  1Ls typically blanket firms with resumes and participate in a limited OCI.

Offers come (you hope) at the end of the summer...method varies by firm.



No doubt, if I had to do doc review as a summer associate I would have contemplated jumping out the window or something.

I'm just glad to see that summer associates even still EXIST in this economy.    Sheesh.

When you got there as a 1L, what were your typical assignments?

How different was your first 6 months comapred to when you were a SA?

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Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: Advice
« on: June 02, 2009, 12:20:44 PM »
1. Delete your name.

2. Get 165 and you are Golden for Ivy League

3. Enjoy undergrad and don't any BS Pre-law courses (Law and Society, Law and Business, Law and Pink Elephants).

4. Do an internship with a lawyer that does the type of law that you might be interested in doing once you graduate.

5. Get involved in a student activity that you ENJOY being a part of. Don't waste your time joining PAD if you don't enjoy or support what they do.

6. Enjoy undergrad

7. Get the hell outta Nebraska ASAP!

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: PREPPING FOR 1L -- HELP
« on: May 31, 2009, 03:42:11 AM »
I disagree.  I think you can learn how to think like a lawyer without law school, but you would have to take many practice exams.

You just finished your 1st year, so you really don't know anything about "thinking like a lawyer" outside of what your Professor has told you to think.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: PREPPING FOR 1L -- HELP
« on: May 29, 2009, 09:05:39 PM »
Also, I'm still in UG, and I took a law & society course last quarter. It essentially functioned as an overview of the basics of the BLL in the core areas (although the prof skimmed over property pretty lightly). I kind of questioned the value of taking it at first, but I think it's going to turn out to be more helpful than I thought. For instance, I'm 150 pages through Blum, and it's all stuff that I had already learned in this class (mailbox rule, consideration for options, etc).


ROFLMAO at the thought of a 0L having "learned" anything about how to handle law school by taking a 1 semester course.

 ;D :D 8)

You can learn Mailbox Rule, Consideration, Acceptance, Options, and every other gnarly vocabulary word by spending an hour on Wikipedia.

Does that in any way prepare you for what you are about to experience during your first 3 weeks of Contracts or Law School in general?

Not a chance. If Undergrad could actually teach you the law or how to "think like a lawyer" then there would be no point in Law School. We'd be like Europe and just have a Legal degree as a part of undergraduate studies.

Do yourself a favor and stop learning stuff that you'll have to UNLEARN once you actually have class.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Typing skills?
« on: May 29, 2009, 08:59:58 PM »
It doesn't really matter. A lot of students in my class hand-wrote their exams simply b/c they had hand-wrote their notes all year long and didn't want to break the rhythm.

I would've hand-wrote my exams except I've become so addicted to typing that my hand starts cramping if I write too fast for too long.

A potential client or Partner would not care HOW you type a brief or memo. All the care is that it is ACCURATE and TURNED IN ON TIME

Do you know how many Lawyers can't tell you the difference between the Shift button and the Caps-lock key on a keyboard? Typed law school exams is only a recent phenomena. Ask any Lawyer/Professor that graduated 6-10 years ago, they'll tell you that "typing" your exam was only for the select few that actually brought laptops to school.

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Simple: Wait until your LRW Professor TELLS you how they want you to write.

If you aren't in school yet, then don't waste your time learning bad habits that will have to be UNLEARNED once you get in school. Two Law Professors at the same school will require different things from their students during the course of the semester.

I disagree some things will remain the same across LWR programs, mainly grammar, style, punctuation, capitalization, when to use the serial comma etc. Hence the recommendation of a style book. During your LRW class is not the time to brush up on your basic grammar rules, do that over the summer.  Also I think LRW at least to style (avoid passive voice, short over long words, not using the same words over and over again) and construction (start with your best point, bury bad points in the middle etc.) which again, remain the same across classes, is one of the easiest things in law school to improve on, if you have the time, which one won’t once LRW actually starts.

If you are in law school and you DON'T know that it is improper to end a sentence with a prepositional phrase then you don't need any legal books. You need Hooked on Phonics or something of that remedial nature.

Have you seen what most 1L's write like, bad...

Have you see what a lot of LAWYERS write like?

and yet they STILL manage to obtain clients and run their own shops.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Facebook and Law School...
« on: May 28, 2009, 09:58:26 PM »
The answer is simple:

Block EVERYBODY who isn't a personal friend. Don't let anybody view your MySpace or Facebook page unless you know EXACTLY who they are.

Disable all public features, and don't be one of those idiots who adds a Professor as a friend.

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