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General Off-Topic Board / Re: The Best Movie Quotes
« on: June 02, 2004, 09:06:24 AM »
You see . . in this world there's two kinds of people my friend, those with loaded guns, and those who dig.  You dig.

General Off-Topic Board / Re: The Best Movie Quotes
« on: June 02, 2004, 08:56:00 AM »
Over?  Over?  It ain't over 'till we say it's over!  Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?  Hell no!!  And it ain't over now.  'Cause when the going gets tough . . . . . . . . . . the tough get going!  Who's with me?  Let's gooooooooooooooo!!

General Off-Topic Board / Re: The Best Movie Quotes
« on: May 31, 2004, 02:46:41 AM »
"Fratres! [brothers] Three weeks from now I will be harvesting my crops.  Imagine where you will be, and it will be so.  Hold the line!  Stay with me!  If you find yourself alone, riding in green fields with the sun on your face, do not be troubled, for you are in Elysium, and you are already dead!  Brothers...what we do in life echoes in eternity."

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Loyola Law School ranking
« on: April 04, 2004, 01:53:06 AM »
Although Loyola is ranked higher than Southwestern in USNews, I wouldn't be quite as quick to characterize Loyola as "head and shoulders over" Southwestern at this point.  Most of the top law firms in LA also employ and/or recruit directly from Southwestern.  See for some examples, which include O'Melveny and Meyers.  Further, consider Southwestern's alumni reputation within Loyola's area of specialization:  Entertainment law. (

Loyola is a great school with a well-deserved reputation.  It also goes without saying that you should generally choose the school with the higher ranking.  However, the "head and shoulders" terminology seems a bit overreaching in light of all of the facts.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Your Number One Reason For Becoming A Lawyer
« on: March 23, 2004, 01:31:37 PM »
We just finished doing oral arguments in school.  I have to admit, one of the things I enjoyed most about that experience was seeing my female counterparts dressed up in professional business attire.  Maybe I'm just a sucker for beautiful women who look like they can pay their own bills.

Law School Admissions / Re: spring admissions?
« on: March 23, 2004, 08:24:03 AM »
I know Ventura College of Law (in CA) has Spring admissions.  However, the school is non-ABA evening program only. 

Good luck.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: 2nd Tier...
« on: March 05, 2004, 03:50:03 PM »
Hey hey now.  Mark Garagos went to Loyola in LA.  We don't want credit for him!! ;)

--SW student

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: California law schools
« on: March 04, 2004, 03:03:13 PM »
. . . by the way, I meant "were" instead of "where" in the previous post.  I don't want my failure to proofread to reflect poorly on my lovely school. ;)

In all honesty, I haven't done much with career services.  The reason is I already have a good job, and I'm a partner of a startup technology LLC on the side.  Down the road, I'll likely end up doing the general counsel and IP/contract/business litigation thing for our LLC.

I guess I'm not too concerned about competition from any of the local schools.  Many of these schools are "ranked" higher, but for my purposes this means relatively little. A potential employer is generally going to consider what he needs, and whether you bring a better deal to the table than the other guy.  With due reverence to the other schools, the difference in ranking between Southwestern and anywhere else is not enough to diminish what I'll be offering in total. 

But many students don't share my perspective.  So to them, getting into the highest-ranked school is the end game.

Southwestern is a solid school with a good reputation.  I've had nothing but a positive experience so far in terms of the quality of education, faculty, peers, facilities, and challenge.  This school was a great fit for me.

I believe most of the major firms in LA now recruit directly at SW. Career services has been very helpful whenever I have visited them. If you contact them, I'm sure they will be happy to provide you a list of these firms.

Good luck. ;D

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: California law schools
« on: March 04, 2004, 11:43:46 AM »
Hey GA_Kristi,

I'm in my first year at Southwestern (evening program), and the faculty has been awesome.  In one of my classes this semester, I sit next to a girl who just tranfered from Cal Western.  I'm not sure what her reasons where for the transfer.  I do know that she is already in her third year (day program), and she wants to work in real-estate.

Let me know if you have any specific questions about SW that I may be able to answer.

Good luck.

Minority and Non-Traditional Law Students / Re: How to?
« on: February 05, 2004, 02:20:59 PM »
If you want to attend an ABA accredited school, I believe you'll have to submit an LSAT score.  However, there are non-ABA accredited schools in California that do not require an LSAT score.  One of those schools is up in Ventura (Ventura College of Law).

As far as part-time ABA day programs go, you might want to take a look at Southwestern (in LA). They are one of few (if not the only) ABA law schools to offer 4 different JD programs.  Three of these programs are part-time.  One of those part-time programs is a 4-year day program called PLEAS ("Part-Time Legal Education At Southwestern").  Check out this link for more info:

I'm in the evening program at Southwestern.  One of things I really enjoy about the part-time program is being in a classroom with people who have substantial experience working in a variety of fields.  This is an advantage in that we are better equiped to discuss how a legal concept might apply to a variety of scenarios that are likely to come up in the real world.  My classmates range from musicians and writers to engineers and yes, even a neurosurgeon.

I hope this helps you.  Good luck.

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