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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: UPenn Class of 2011
« on: February 15, 2008, 09:41:46 AM »
Well, I don't want to get into a back and forth, as you understand the point I was making. I will just add that I currently live in Harvard Square and receive "advisories" pretty much daily about some student being stuck up or mugged on or near campus...

I just think that Philadelphia, particularly W. Philly, is a great city and don't want to see potential classmates decide not to go to Penn based on exaggerated info...

I mean, yeah, if you're going to pick your law school based on it being in a nice neighborhood, you pretty much rule out most of the the T14. :D  And in general, big private schools seem to attract a fair amount of crime, because they're filled with students carrying around expensive things and not always being careful about them.  

Also, for what it's worth, as I've said before, I actually like West Philly.  It's much more neighborhood-y and feels safer than Chestnut St, which is like a ghost town at night.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: UPenn Class of 2011
« on: February 14, 2008, 11:14:11 PM »
I've heard Domus mentioned on here before, but I just now took the time to look it up. Do law students live in Domus?

at last count, there were somewhere between 13 and 15 law students living in Domus (including myself).  personally, i love the place- and it has in-room washers and dryers!  its a pretty amazing building, but obviously you pay for it.  Team Pam on here also lives there, so you can ask either of us questions about it if you want to know anything

I'm moving with the SO so sharing a 1br in Domus wouldn't make it that outrageous, especially b/c she'll be working full-time. It is still very expensive. Do you plan to stay next year? Feel like you miss out on the Center City scene?

We're really close to Center City, and when it's not horribly cold out, the walk is quick.  I'd recommend looking at the Left Bank, too, which has a lot of the same amenities as Domus but is a little cheaper and two blocks closer to CC (and has better retail stuff on its first floor, including a bar and places to eat)

Personally, I'll probably move to CC over the summer because I find it gets a little claustrophobic living so close to the law school, and I'd like to have more things to do in walking distance.  But this has been great for 1L year and 9 am classes.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: UPenn Class of 2011
« on: February 14, 2008, 11:07:27 PM »
With regards to discussions of crime around Penn, the arguments against Penn and W. Philly are a bit overstated, as well, particularly when comparing the area around Penn to the areas around other elite law schools. The crime rate in UCity is not really any greater than the crime rate in New Haven, Hyde Park, Morningside Heights, Cambridge, etc.

I'll concede the others, but Cambridge?  Come on...

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: UPenn Class of 2011
« on: February 12, 2008, 10:11:31 PM »
i'm just sayin', it's not the right choice for law students, even without the crime issues (although those crime issues have worsened lately, and are moving closer to penn's campus... hopefully the new mayor will turn that trend around).  i also wanted to point out that your social life will be better in CC, since that's where the action is, and you'll meet plenty of people over on this side of the river. 

take it for what it's worth, but don't say i didn't tell you so!   ;)

Legapp is right.  Crime in university city is up 10% from last year.  And I live in Domus, and there have been at least three cars broken into in our garage, and a crazy vagrant attacked my dog right in front of our front door, and one of my classmates was assaulted in broad daylight two blocks north of school (NOT west) and had the crap kicked out of her.  And then there were the two shootings at 38th and Chestnut last fall.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: UPenn Class of 2011
« on: February 11, 2008, 08:25:45 AM »
Guys, I've said this before, but it bears repeating:  LIVE IN CENTER CITY.  Please, please trust me on this.... everyone who has lived elsewhere has regretted it.  If you're looking for quiet, look towards the Fitler Square area (Walnut-South, 20th-27th).  Tons of law students live around here... trust me, you will be close to your friends (and me!).   :)

This is very, very true.  I couldn't find a place in Center City (I only had two days, and I have a dog, which made it tricky), and living in University City pretty much sucks. 

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: UPenn Class of 2011
« on: January 31, 2008, 10:05:10 AM »


Outlaw, if you decide to go for either a MB or MBair, it'll really come down to the following factors:

* How much you enjoy being the cool kid with the newest gadget.  The MBair will definitely be the hot toy in Fall 08.  Some people really get off on having that kind of thing, other people could care less or shy away from it.
* Whether you need an internal CD drive.  The MBair doesn't have one.  You can either buy an external drive or use the CD drive ANOTHER computer wirelessly (software installation required).  It's kind of a drag for some (like me), but others don't use their laptop CD drive and wouldn't miss it.
* How much you care about lightness.  While the MB is hardly a goliath compared to the air, you save about two pounds going with the air.  Some folks have speculated that, with the weight of their books, they'd want to shave off a few pounds from their load.

Thanks so much. Let's see...I don't care at all about having the newest gadget - I just want what will work best. As for the CD Drive, I'll still have my Toshiba. And besides, I can't think of anything I would need a CD Drive for. Actually, now that I think about it - I'll probably need to connect the MBair to my printer (and that requires the installation cd, no?) And I'm sure some of this exam software requires software installation via CD. That's going to be really annoying. I'm so not techno- savvy. Darn - I was really leaning toward the MBair. Lightness would be ideal. I love my bike and I really want to bike to class. I also don't want a hunchback by age 30 so light laptop will be clutch.

ExamSoft is downloadable, so you're fine there.  And Macs are totally plug-and-play.  I haven't needed an installation disc in years.

I have a MacBook Pro, which sucks weight-wise but is worth it to me for the larger screen and sturdiness (I'm a bit of a klutz).  I'd say about 30% of my section has Macs, and the number seems to be growing.  Be sure to check out the deals that Penn offers, too -- they're even cheaper than the standard education discount, though your options are more limited.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: UPenn Class of 2011
« on: January 29, 2008, 08:22:01 AM »
Hey, I just got it today (my mail comes late). 

It isn't like I was checking the mailbox for two years, but it is nice that it's finally here.

I do have to say that it's a bit like when Star Wars Episode I came out (you youngens aren't going to get this analogy at all).  I've been waiting so long--when I was accepted, it was just a single piece of paper--that nothing could live up to my expectations.  I wish they had included a decal for my car window or something.  What's worse is that a couple months back I went online to their bookstore and purchased a hat and a hoodie.  They called and said that they had discontinued that particular hat and that the hoodie was out of stock.   :(

You'll get a sticker sometime this summer.  :)  As for the shirt/hat, the main Penn bookstore won't carry law stuff because it's not profitable enough for them (which is annoying when you see that half the store is Wharton crap), so CSR (our student council) holds sales of Penn Law swag a few times a year.  They should be doing a table at ASW, so bring cash!

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: UPenn Class of 2011
« on: January 24, 2008, 08:27:12 AM »

Yay!  Your fancy new LSAT may well get you some financial aid.   :)

Man, here's hoping.  My loans from undergrad are just about all I can handle.

If you're not happy with your original amount, you can try to use other schools' offers to bargain -- I did this last year, and while I didn't get them to match anywhere (grrr), I did get enough that I felt okay about choosing Penn.

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Law School Applications / Re: Penn's Request for new grades
« on: January 21, 2008, 08:27:37 AM »
I'm not sure what's going on, but Penn seems to be really stingy with GPAs this year.  A lot of Mich/UVA acceptances have been deferred at Penn, and generally their LSATs are 168+, but their GPAs are <3.85.  Just anecdotal, obviously.

I think this is probably accurate.  It was definitely the direction they were going last year.  They're totally just copycatting Toby Stock.  ;)

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: ITT you all sell me on Penn (moved)
« on: January 19, 2008, 09:54:48 PM »

The other thing is that Penn really focuses on the "LS is not enough" route with its ENCOURAGING students to do work outside of the LS for credit toward the JD.  If I wanted to, I could take a class on Beethoven String Quartets and have it count as much as an elective on regulation.  That probably pisses some people off, but it makes ME realize that the school cares more about the overall education of its students to be lawyers in a complex and interdisciplinary world than it does about making everyone take classes they may never use.

Actually, this may be stretching things a bit.  The four classes you take outside of the law school have to relate to your law studies in some way, and there are some limitations.  For example, you can't take a language class below the 500 level (which is basically fluency) for law credit.  You *can* take a lower-level language class (or whatever floats your boat) and just not get law credit, but you'll have to pay the extra tuition.  I do know that people have been able to occasionally push the boundaries on this one, though -- I have it on good authority that someone once got credit for a drawing class after making a convincing argument -- so you might be able to make your case for Beethoven.

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