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Job Search / Re: Should I work for Cravath?
« on: September 07, 2008, 12:48:10 PM »
I know how the Cravath assignment system works, it's 18 month rotations.  I see equal amounts of good and bad from that so it's not really weighing onto either side in my decision.  What I'm unsure about is if it's really more hours than other firms and their treatment of women.  Any thoughts on that?

Cravath hosted a women-only 1L reception at my school last year.  It was horrifying -- by the end, not only did I never want to work at Cravath, I was ready to get out of law altogether.  PM me if you want more details, but from the conversations I had with women lawyers, I can say that it does NOT seem like a female-friendly place to work.

Current Law Students / Re: Why is Penn Law going downhill so sharply?
« on: September 06, 2008, 08:00:29 PM »
The parking thing is a campus-wide issue, not just the law school.  And the Penn garages are secured, so it's not like somebody could just wander in off the street and take your motorcycle.

Charging for lockers is ridiculous, I agree, and the construction delay sucks.  But the break room is supposed to return once the basement construction is finished, and it's not like a foosball table is a standard amenity -- you can always buy your own if it's that important to your daily life.

Job Search / Re: are there better days/times for callbacks?
« on: August 28, 2008, 08:46:46 PM »
I don't really see how they're working all of the time. at the most, I see around 2300 hours worked as the average for the largest firms. That comes out to less than 50 hours a week...

So, are those numbers just lies or what?

Hours billed != hours worked.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: UPenn Class of 2011
« on: August 25, 2008, 05:28:06 AM »
Is it common for profs to ban laptops in class here?

It's not unusual, and I think more and more are doing it each year.  This seems to be a nationwide trend, not just at Penn.  Last semester I had one prof that banned them outright and another who highly discouraged them.  Honestly, I found I got much more out of class when I took notes on paper -- this semester I probably won't bring my laptop to any of my classes.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: UPenn Class of 2011
« on: August 23, 2008, 09:53:43 AM »
Robinson elicits VERY strong feelings of either love or hate - but if he's the worst you have, then you've done extremely well for yourself professor-wise :)

I beg to differ -- I don't know anybody that loved him (unless m1 did and kept that close to the chest ;)), but I know plenty of people who were just plain bored to tears by him.  Especially because you can't have your computer in class.  On any given day, I'd say a third to a half of the class wouldn't bother to show up.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: UPenn Class of 2011
« on: August 21, 2008, 10:45:42 AM »
You can check Amazon for textbooks -- they sometimes have cheaper prices.  Or if you have a Barnes & Noble membership, any books they carry will be 20% off on their website (but not in the campus store).

The online version of the bluebook wasn't out when we started last year, so I don't know if you'll get access through the school, but either way you should probably invest in a hard copy.  You don't want to be stuck if the online one goes down when you're in the middle of a legal writing assignment the night before it's due.  :)

As for those professors, the only one I'm familiar with is Struve -- she's supposed to be completely awesome, brilliant and very nice.  Section 1 had Morse last year, but I don't remember what people thought of him.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: UPenn Class of 2011
« on: August 21, 2008, 08:28:09 AM »
People love Burbank -- he's one of the most respected and beloved teachers at Penn.  Finkelstein has a reputation for being mean, but she was on sabbatical last year so none of us 2Ls know anything firsthand.

Seconding what m1 said about textbooks.  Especially for classes like Civ Pro, where the rules were updated last year, you absolutely need the latest edition of the book.  And every Civ Pro professor either requires or recommends Glannon's Examples and Explanations supplement -- and there's a new edition this year, which you should make sure to get instead of buying an old one at the EJF sale.

Personally, I don't like E&E for everything -- for IP, I much preferred the Emanuel outline.  Torts you might also want a more straightforward outline, or even flashcards.  m1 and I both had a very non-traditional crim professor, so we couldn't use a supplement, but everyone else seemed to use the Dressler one.  And for con law next semester, the Chemerinsky book is unparalleled and the best $50 you will ever spend during 1L.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: UPenn Class of 2011
« on: August 10, 2008, 09:11:29 PM »
random questions for those living in philly right now i suppose...

How late is it too late to be taking the subway back to UC by yourself at night?

any recommended cab companies?

The latest I've ever taken the subway by myself is probably 10 on a weeknight.  Weekends I'm usually in groups and/or in cabs.  Just hail the first cab you see; the company doesn't matter -- but do NOT get in a cab if someone is riding shotgun!

Incoming 1Ls / Re: UPenn Class of 2011
« on: August 09, 2008, 07:59:00 AM »
2L and 3L class schedules were released yesterday on Penn In Touch and the Course Portal.

I think last year the easiest and earliest way to find out 1L schedules was to determine your section number from Penn In Touch (maybe under the transcript or student schedule tab) or the Course Portal and then match up your section number with the fall block schedule on the Registrar's site.

I remember buying my books before our schedules even officially came out by doing it this way.  If I remember correctly, someone even put together a spreadsheet by section of what books you would need, including their ISBN numbers for buying them on amazon etc.  Very handy, that was.

Interesting.  I can't find anything that would indicate a section number... anyone else?

Does anything show up when you click on Transcript?

Incoming 1Ls / Re: UPenn Class of 2011
« on: July 31, 2008, 05:45:50 AM »
m1 - Does your daily billiards habit count as an EC?  ;)

It finally made it on my resume as an interest of mine :P

Ha!  Really?  Because I was going to suggest that.  :D

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