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Incoming 1Ls / Re: Obese and Hypertensive: what to do before August
« on: June 04, 2007, 12:05:38 PM »
I recommend the South Beach diet. It was developed by a cardiologist.

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Incoming 1Ls / Re: Law School Personality
« on: May 30, 2007, 10:52:27 AM »
I hacked all ur computers and ran a test of my own.  Strangely, this statement accurately reflects the personality of everyone in this thread:

You have a need for other people to like and admire you, and yet you tend to be critical of yourself. While you have some personality weaknesses you are generally able to compensate for them. You have considerable unused capacity that you have not turned to your advantage. Disciplined and self-controlled on the outside, you tend to be worrisome and insecure on the inside. At times you have serious doubts as to whether you have made the right decision or done the right thing. You prefer a certain amount of change and variety and become dissatisfied when hemmed in by restrictions and limitations. You also pride yourself as an independent thinker; and do not accept others' statements without satisfactory proof. But you have found it unwise to be too frank in revealing yourself to others. At times you are extroverted, affable, and sociable, while at other times you are introverted, wary, and reserved. Some of your aspirations tend to be rather unrealistic.

I bet you could make a fortune as a psychic  ;)

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Incoming 1Ls / Re: Law School Personality
« on: May 30, 2007, 09:23:29 AM »
don't put too much stock into whether personality tests make a good fit for being a lawyer.  the law field, much like everything else, takes all types!

I agree with this totally, but I think he was looking for the types that enjoy law school itself.  I'm an ENTJ for whatever it's worth (really interesting to me because I was an ENTP 5 years ago).

Me too! on both accounts - I also went from being ENTP to ENTJ

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Villnova vs. Penn State
« on: May 29, 2007, 06:30:20 AM »
There are a few things to consider here. Booyakasha2 gave you numbers in a vacuum. He didn't tell you where those Villanova and Dickinson grads WORK (firms, solo practitioners, public interest, etc), he just told you where they reside. You could obtain more detailed info pertinent to your own interests by doing a more customized search on your own. I also have a particular problem with the word "place", because it takes all personal preference out of the process. Booyakasha (like many on this board) is assuming that one's career is a direct result of where one attended law school. He is not allowing for the possibility that people who choose to attend schools like PSU, in less urban areas, may do so because they are less interested in an urban lifestyle. There are a number of other similar factors that contribute to lawyers' career decisions. If you look closely at specific attorneys and at specific large firms, you'll find graduates of both Villanova and Penn State Dickinson in Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, DC, Harrisburg, Baltimore, and so on and so forth. This should indicate to you that neither school has a poor reputation - large firms are not going to risk hiring graduates of "bad" schools. When you're dealing with schools like Nova or PSU, neither school's name is going to be enough to get you a job. Essentially, at either place, whatever job you get will be the result of the work you do to get there. This is why, if I were in your position, I would attend the school that gave me a scholarship. However, I also have a substantial amount of student loan debt remaining from undergrad and do not wish to add to it any more than I have to. Your circumstances may be quite different. But in my mind, PSU would be the better financial decision.

And now, I really am bowing out of this conversation. Nice chatting with all of you.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Villnova vs. Penn State
« on: May 27, 2007, 12:11:53 PM »
If you want to see exactly where grads of both schools are practicing, you should do an advanced search on Martindale.com. This will most likely give you a more accurate picture than "all the Dickinson grads I know are doing X", etc

Good idea.

Lawyers, that attended villanova, in Pennsylvania, United States found 1,713 listings. (Only the first 1000 will be displayed).
Lawyers, that attended dickinson, in Pennsylvania, United States found 1,293 listings. (Only the first 1000 will be displayed).

Lawyers, that attended villanova, found 1,003 listings in Philadelphia.
Lawyers, that attended dickinson, found 238 listings in Philadelphia or Lawyers, that attended penn state, found 16 listings.

Lawyers, that attended villanova, in pittsburgh, found 21 listings.
Lawyers, that attended dickinson, in pittsburgh, found 76 listings.

Lawyers, that attended villanova, in new york, found 121 listings.
Lawyers, that attended dickinson, in new york, found 38 listings.

Lawyers, that attended villanova, in District of Columbia, United States found 44 listings.
Lawyers, that attended dickinson, in District of Columbia, United States found 38 listings.

None of these schools have very good reach outside their regional market.  But PSU or Dickinson grads (which most past grads still prefer to identify themselves as) don't even place that great in Philly, the main legal market in the state.


HTH

Wow - I'm not even going to get into all the oversights and flawed logic in that post. I'm glad I won't be listening to you during Socratic Method sessions! I'm not exactly sure what you're out to prove, but I believe we've given the OP what he needed to know. He is completely capable of looking up those statistics (and far more detailed info) on Martindale, as I suggested. I'll be bowing out of this conversation now. Feel free to cheer because you've "won" - I'm sure that was going to be your next post  ;)

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I was a studio art major and got into T1 schools. Your LSAT score and GPA are far more important than your major. I agree that music might be more desirable if anything - law schools are always looking for diversity.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Villnova vs. Penn State
« on: May 27, 2007, 09:43:27 AM »
If you want to see exactly where grads of both schools are practicing, you should do an advanced search on Martindale.com. This will most likely give you a more accurate picture than "all the Dickinson grads I know are doing X", etc

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Villnova vs. Penn State
« on: May 26, 2007, 05:17:36 AM »
"As far as squeaking into Penn State I don't think so, but you probably know better than I.   Also, I know you typed with all due respect, but with all due respect if I go to Penn State I will make it my goal to finish higher than you. That sounds like big talk over the computer, but I hate people that make wild claims with no real basis. You don't know my soft factors or know me as a person, so I find your claims baseless."

My apologies - I genuinely was not trying to insult you or to assume anything. I was just going by what you've said in your posts. You should have the goal of outperforming everyone else in your class, no matter where you go, because that's probably the only way you'll get decent grades. But I think it's important to keep in mind that the majority of people probably think this way. I'm certainly not saying that you CAN'T be at the top of your class - you very well may be, and that would be great. I'm just saying the odds are against you, statistically speaking. But good luck wherever you go (which sounds like Villanova).

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Villnova vs. Penn State
« on: May 25, 2007, 06:03:05 PM »
Just Remember Ed Rendell, our evil Governor, went to Nova.

And Tom Ridge, former governor and Secretary of Homeland Security, went to Dickinson.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Villnova vs. Penn State
« on: May 25, 2007, 05:57:40 PM »
The question was not which is the "better" school, but which is the better choice for our OP specifically. If he knew he wanted to stay in Philly, I would say go with Villanova. Since he doesn't know that though, I think PSU is the less risky choice, for a couple of reasons. Not to insult the OP, but it sounds like he barely got in to both of these schools. It would be foolish to assume he has a good chance at being in the top of his class at either place, and it sounds as though that's what you need to get a biglaw job (unless you've got some awesome connections). If he can't get a biglaw job and has to take a lower paying position, wouldn't it be better to do it with significantly less debt? Remember, these are both teir two schools. While the statistics are slightly in Villanova's favor, it's not like we're comparing a T2 with a high T1.

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