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Personal Statement / Re: ADOPTION
« on: July 11, 2007, 08:28:31 AM »
I'm also adopted and I mentioned it briefly, but I really didn't dwell on it or use it as the basis for my whole PS. I basically wrote a paragraph in my PS that discussed how I was demographically different from the average US attorney, and that's where I mentioned my adoption. I wouldn't center your entire statement around it though, unless you can tie it in some way to why you want to go to law school (i.e., you want to do family law or something).

General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: yes or no to facebook
« on: June 28, 2007, 08:56:22 AM »
Dude, it sounds like your friends suck... My friends wouldn't sell me out.

Doesn't have to be a real friend.  Could be just a Facebook friend, maybe someone you were friends with but had a falling out with.  And it's easy to say your friends won't sell you out when the hiring partner isn't telling them to do something and explaining the consequences when they don't.

Facebook now allows you to set specific privacy rules for specific people in addition to your general privacy settings (called limited profile). While there are still some risks associated with facebook, I'd say if you have a falling out with someone or if you don't know someone that well, restrict how much of your profile that person can see.

General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: PSU Dickinson - 2010
« on: June 25, 2007, 01:21:45 PM »
Is anyone planning to participate in the new student chat tonight?

Where should I go next fall? / Re: Penn State or Buffalo
« on: June 21, 2007, 01:36:13 PM »
Congrats on being accepted to Buffalo! When you say you have housing at Penn State, do you mean you already leased an apartment? If so, will you be able to get your money back?

I don't know much about Buffalo, but I would think the cost difference would make it a good option. As a future PSU student, though, I would miss you at Penn State  :) The only new information I can offer is that PA legislators are trying to pass a bill that would allow $10,000 per year in loan repayment for lawyers who work as PD's or ADA's for at least three years. I know other states are trying to do this as well, so the same may be true in NY. But, if the bill passes, you may be able to save some money by going to PSU and practicing in PA. There are quite a few "ifs" there, though, so it's probably not wise to make a decision based on something that might happen.

General Off-Topic Board / Re: I feel for "attractive" girls
« on: June 18, 2007, 03:38:54 PM »
Studies have shown that attractive people are perceived as being more competent, actually.

I recommend the South Beach diet. It was developed by a cardiologist.

General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Law School Personality
« on: May 30, 2007, 12:52:27 PM »
I hacked all ur computers and ran a test of my own.  Strangely, this statement accurately reflects the personality of everyone in this thread:

You have a need for other people to like and admire you, and yet you tend to be critical of yourself. While you have some personality weaknesses you are generally able to compensate for them. You have considerable unused capacity that you have not turned to your advantage. Disciplined and self-controlled on the outside, you tend to be worrisome and insecure on the inside. At times you have serious doubts as to whether you have made the right decision or done the right thing. You prefer a certain amount of change and variety and become dissatisfied when hemmed in by restrictions and limitations. You also pride yourself as an independent thinker; and do not accept others' statements without satisfactory proof. But you have found it unwise to be too frank in revealing yourself to others. At times you are extroverted, affable, and sociable, while at other times you are introverted, wary, and reserved. Some of your aspirations tend to be rather unrealistic.

I bet you could make a fortune as a psychic  ;)

General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Law School Personality
« on: May 30, 2007, 11:23:29 AM »
don't put too much stock into whether personality tests make a good fit for being a lawyer.  the law field, much like everything else, takes all types!

I agree with this totally, but I think he was looking for the types that enjoy law school itself.  I'm an ENTJ for whatever it's worth (really interesting to me because I was an ENTP 5 years ago).

Me too! on both accounts - I also went from being ENTP to ENTJ

Where should I go next fall? / Re: Villnova vs. Penn State
« on: May 29, 2007, 08:30:20 AM »
There are a few things to consider here. Booyakasha2 gave you numbers in a vacuum. He didn't tell you where those Villanova and Dickinson grads WORK (firms, solo practitioners, public interest, etc), he just told you where they reside. You could obtain more detailed info pertinent to your own interests by doing a more customized search on your own. I also have a particular problem with the word "place", because it takes all personal preference out of the process. Booyakasha (like many on this board) is assuming that one's career is a direct result of where one attended law school. He is not allowing for the possibility that people who choose to attend schools like PSU, in less urban areas, may do so because they are less interested in an urban lifestyle. There are a number of other similar factors that contribute to lawyers' career decisions. If you look closely at specific attorneys and at specific large firms, you'll find graduates of both Villanova and Penn State Dickinson in Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, DC, Harrisburg, Baltimore, and so on and so forth. This should indicate to you that neither school has a poor reputation - large firms are not going to risk hiring graduates of "bad" schools. When you're dealing with schools like Nova or PSU, neither school's name is going to be enough to get you a job. Essentially, at either place, whatever job you get will be the result of the work you do to get there. This is why, if I were in your position, I would attend the school that gave me a scholarship. However, I also have a substantial amount of student loan debt remaining from undergrad and do not wish to add to it any more than I have to. Your circumstances may be quite different. But in my mind, PSU would be the better financial decision.

And now, I really am bowing out of this conversation. Nice chatting with all of you.

Where should I go next fall? / Re: Villnova vs. Penn State
« on: May 27, 2007, 02:11:53 PM »
If you want to see exactly where grads of both schools are practicing, you should do an advanced search on This will most likely give you a more accurate picture than "all the Dickinson grads I know are doing X", etc

Good idea.

Lawyers, that attended villanova, in Pennsylvania, United States found 1,713 listings. (Only the first 1000 will be displayed).
Lawyers, that attended dickinson, in Pennsylvania, United States found 1,293 listings. (Only the first 1000 will be displayed).

Lawyers, that attended villanova, found 1,003 listings in Philadelphia.
Lawyers, that attended dickinson, found 238 listings in Philadelphia or Lawyers, that attended penn state, found 16 listings.

Lawyers, that attended villanova, in pittsburgh, found 21 listings.
Lawyers, that attended dickinson, in pittsburgh, found 76 listings.

Lawyers, that attended villanova, in new york, found 121 listings.
Lawyers, that attended dickinson, in new york, found 38 listings.

Lawyers, that attended villanova, in District of Columbia, United States found 44 listings.
Lawyers, that attended dickinson, in District of Columbia, United States found 38 listings.

None of these schools have very good reach outside their regional market.  But PSU or Dickinson grads (which most past grads still prefer to identify themselves as) don't even place that great in Philly, the main legal market in the state.


Wow - I'm not even going to get into all the oversights and flawed logic in that post. I'm glad I won't be listening to you during Socratic Method sessions! I'm not exactly sure what you're out to prove, but I believe we've given the OP what he needed to know. He is completely capable of looking up those statistics (and far more detailed info) on Martindale, as I suggested. I'll be bowing out of this conversation now. Feel free to cheer because you've "won" - I'm sure that was going to be your next post  ;)

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