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Transferring / Re: T3 or low T2?
« on: August 05, 2008, 01:00:51 PM »
BTW, to big-fat-box -- what makes you such an expert on the job prospects at other schools anyway? How the heck do you know? You're obviously using BigLaw as an end all and be all. Even if I was fortunate to transfer up to T30 or began there to begin or were in the top 5 at Pace, I still would think once, twice, three times a lady about working one of those gigs. I know too many people who were miserable at those places and bailed out within a couple years. I also have family friends who middles in school, worked small firms and became very successful within a reasonable time after graduating. Will those first few years suck for me in the face of loans? Yes. But I don't see myself being in ruins in 20 years or anything. You make evrything outside of Latham and Dechert sound like Dairy Queen. It's amusing. 

Transferring / Re: Watch out for "loans" pergatory....
« on: August 05, 2008, 12:55:11 PM »
Oh, them sneaky b*itches! :-)

Current Law Students / Re: Do I need a laptop for law school?
« on: August 04, 2008, 10:50:42 AM »
A laptop isn;t 100% necessary,k but it is a good thing to have. It allows you to work more peacefully on campus; it ensures you can access your work and store your briefs conveniently; and as someone else mentioned, it's advantageous to take finals on the laptop because of the opportunity to edit your work and fix any sloppiness.

Be aware, though, that while many schools will reimburse you for the laptop as part of your 1L FA package, you may not be able to pay it down with that money, and you may carry the debt into the near future (happened to me; law school is more expensive out-of-pocket than I anticipated -- books, study aids/treatises, new suits, incidentals, laundry, etc., etc.) 

... it seems like a good idea to open new schools at Binghamton and Stonybrook. It's unbelievable to me that with all the private schools in the state that there still is only one state school (well, two if you include CUNY, but they're very low on the totem pole). That seems wrong when we're talking about the second biggest state in the U.S. I got waitlisted at Buffalo; I'm sure there were lots of others in the same boat, since the school (smartly) keeps its yearly enrollment to 250 students. It would have nice to put apps into a couple of other state schools as other lower-cost options. How state-run law schools are there in California? UCLA, Boalt, Cal-Davis, Cal-Hastings ... at least those four, and probably one or two I've overlooked (USC uis private, right?). Granted, all of those are mid-T2 or higher, but the options are there. For New York residents, the best hope to save on tuition besides Buffalo is to apply to the other states' schools and hope to to gain residency by 3L.

This state doesn't need 14 private schools, really. Wondering what others think ...   

Transferring / Re: T3 or low T2?
« on: August 04, 2008, 10:26:54 AM »
Price is virtually the same at both places, for what it's worth (St.J might be $1K or $2K more expensive on tuition, but living expenses are the same. That's one thing I'll give Pace; they were able to cap this year's tuition increase to 3%). So that really isn't much of a consideration, unless scholarship money factors into the equation.

Current Law Students / Re: It could always be worse...
« on: August 01, 2008, 02:19:14 PM »
Must be a law student ... :-)

I'm not fully in the same boat as you, as I actually have enjoyed my gig and have learned an awful lot. However, the work morphed from IP research and applying patent principles to performing marketing and social research -- the company is launching a new Web concern, and everything else was put on hold so that all R&D hands could work on it. So I haven't gotten nearly as much legal training as I'd like, and I'll be leaving with little written product that I can actually use as samples (hard when 90% of it is confidential).  That's disappointing. BUT 1. You can only push so much and 2. The work is not irrelevant at all (I've been studying the the demographic, linguistic and socioeconomic trends of the BRIC world -- all U.S. lawyers will need to know this stuff in 10 more years, and that puts me ahead of that curve). 

Luckily, I'll be doing an externship, taking Evidence in a simulation format (awesome, but brutal) and writing a ton in my Crim Pro class in the fall. Combined with lots of moot court and (hopefully) a research assistantship, I should more than make up for lost time. And I am parting with what could be a long-term relationship with my company. Straight law or no straight law, that's a good chip to have in the post-Bush economy (especially since my boss invented and knows as much about 'Net law and the IP process as anyone in the country).

BTW, try not to succumb to negativity ... easy to do in law, I've learned, because the energy patterns can be so chaotic and the people around you can be so obnoxious. I've fallen into that trap intermittenly myself, and I understand your frustration. However, 1. As long as you're learning and moving forward, you're progressing. 2. Very little in life proceeds according to plan. 4. It's up to you to fight to get where you want ... nobody will hand you your opportunities. and 4. the people interviewing you for jobs ostensibly still like what they  do, and a bad attitude can work against you.   

Transferring / Re: T3 or low T2?
« on: July 31, 2008, 04:45:34 PM »
Hey, Pace is not a school to knock. Only game in town in Westchester, and a growing rep in NYC.And St.J does well , too -- 90% bar passage rate is nothing to spit at. Both are good local law schools.In other words, we won't be dressing in blue baggies and coming by to collect the trash from the that vault Skadden locks you in for 20 hours a day for servitude as a Sarbanes-Oxley huntin' whore. :P


Transferring / Re: T3 or low T2?
« on: July 31, 2008, 12:28:54 PM »
Wow, sheriff -- was your school that bad that your put in transfer applications to 14 different schools? My goodness ... that's, like, diligent. :-)

Transferring / Re: T3 or low T2?
« on: July 30, 2008, 07:30:21 PM »
Also, where in the city are you moving to? Another factor: In many cases, the commute from the Pace campus to Grand Central is shorter than the commute from just about anywhere in the city out to the STJ Jamaica campus, which takes a subway ride all the way out there on the E or F (can't remember which, but both are annoying) and then a bus ride and walk. Even if you're in Astoria, you still need to either take the N to Queensboro Plaza and then walk over to the nearby Queens Plaza station to catch the proper line, which from there is still a hike. Having lived in NYC for most of eight years before moving to WP, I can say commuting down there is as much of a pain in the ass and, on weekends, can be even worse. 

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