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Law School Admissions / Re: GPA deflated by LSAC
« on: January 11, 2007, 06:54:14 PM »
Mine went up by .06. I really haven't a clue how they normalize the GPA's, but I assume it has something to do with the perceived rigor of your courses and level of grade point inflation at your school. Just guessing though. For the record I went to a state school, majored in Economics, did one semester in the UK and in general took the hardest/most advanced courses I could for electives.

best of luck

Law School Admissions / Re: LSAC doesn't work...
« on: January 11, 2007, 06:48:49 PM »
I never got it to work very well in IE7, but works fine in IE6 for me.

best of luck

I also studied abroad, but I think my undergrad school did things differently. They converted the British grades to "US equivalent grades". I was at Oxford and got alpha minuses which was a ton of work and an awesome grade by their system, but looks like an A-, but when the grades were converted to be applied for undergraduate credit at my undergrad school they all turned into A+/4.0's and the converted grades are all LSAC ever looked at (because that's all that's on my undergrad transcript). I think my school more or less bumps up Oxford grades by either one half or one letter grade when converting, don't know really because I didn't have room to go up by a full letter. Anyway, however LSAC does it worked out well for me as my LSAC GPA is higher than my actual GPA.

best of luck

Law School Admissions / Re: In at George Mason...
« on: January 03, 2007, 08:13:47 PM »
Congrats, GMU is a great school!

I went to GMU undergrad and know a couple of the law professors. I wouldn't classify it as a terribly conservative school overall, especially socially (other than being a dry campus).  The Econ department and to a lesser extent the Law school are quite influenced by free-market/liberterian economics/austrian/chicago as well as public choice of course. James Buchanon and Vernon Smith are both active faculty members involved with both the Econ, law and public policy schools. From what I gather the Law program at GMU is very strong in IP and Law and Econ. I actuallly took a Law and Econ course and found it very good. I'd be surprised if there's a better single L&E course anywhere.

have fun

Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: University of D.C.???
« on: December 23, 2006, 01:45:42 PM »
I'd give GMU a shot, they are a very good school and rising quickly in the rankings. Without looking it up I'd guess your gpa is right in there and hopefully your LSAT will be sufficent. Be sure to write a good PS and include your westpoint exp in it. I suspect that will carry some weight.

best of luck

Law School Admissions / Re: Apply now or next Fall?
« on: December 23, 2006, 11:19:09 AM »
Thanks for the info, I'm a white, US born male so I'm not sure I could pull of the URM thing...might be ok anyway though....any thoughts on what affect applying now would have on applying next year if I don't get in on this round?



Law School Admissions / Re: Apply now or next Fall?
« on: December 23, 2006, 11:03:34 AM »
Thanks for the replies! I would certainly be happy with UVA, but if I wonder if I would kick myself for the rest of my life if I didn't give the others a shot and I don't know if trying now (and not getting in) would hurt my chances of getting in earlier. Looking at LSN it seems I stand a very good chance of getting in at HLS or the others if I were to apply fairly early and a pretty small chance of getting in now, but its hard to tell with much certainty..

Law School Admissions / Apply now or next Fall?
« on: December 23, 2006, 07:57:27 AM »
I am trying to decide whether I should apply to law schools now or early next fall, relevant info and situation below:

LSAT 171, GPA 3.95 actual, 4.01 LSDAS. Just took the LSAT this month, letters of recommendation all either accounted for or have at least been sent by my recomenders. I initially intended to apply ASAP for fall 2007, but I realize its late in the cycle and my chances may not be the best. Also I did not expect to do as well as I did on the LSAT and originally intended to go to either GMU with UVA as a optimistic goal. Now based just on the stats it looks like UVA should be nearly a given (if its not too late already) and Chicago, Stanford and Harvard are perhaps possibilities worth thinking about.


What would you guess my chances of getting into those schools is now as compared to if I wait till next fall, then apply early (say September or whenever they start accepting apps)?

If I apply now (or within the next couple of weeks) and get rejected does that hurt my chances for getting in next fall? Would there be a big difference in the amount of $$ I can expect from schools if I apply now vs next fall? This is one that I really have no insight on and would make a huge difference, please comment if you can.

Other random thoughts......
On a personal note, I think that if I go to UVA I'd prefer to go this fall, for the others I could go this fall, but wouldn't mind an extra year to get things sorted here (I have a house to sell, lots of crap to move/sell/put in storage etc).

For school selection (based on what I've read, please add to, correct or comment as you see fit),

UVA  Pros: Moderate political climate, good academic reputation and location. Its about an hour and a half away from where I live now and I'd probably keep the house I currently have and come home on weekends. Life would be fairly simple.
     Cons: Perhaps I could do better, want to work somewhere other than DC or NYC once I'm out of school perhaps CA or even Denver or TX.

Chicago Pros: I'm a huge Law and Econ fan, was an Econ major for undergrad and have been working as an economist of sorts for the past two years. I really admire Posner and have read a lot of his work. National recognition and ability to get a job most anywhere.
        Cons: I'm not terribly crazy about the climate or living in a big city, but I've grown up in the DC metro area and can handle it just fine if need be. Location isn't a huge deal to me. Might not be able to get in this admissions cycle.
Stanford: Pros: Laid back atmosphere, great reputation and the bicycling. Although I've never lived on the west coast I think I'd like it a lot. I'm into outdoor sports (bicycling, motocross, aviation etc) and always wanted to try life on the west coast.
          Cons: Probably not a lot of like-minded students or faculty (I'm a free-market economist type), fairly small, might have a hard time finding classes in the fields I like (Law and Econ, Constitutional Law, Antitrust, International Trade law...). Probably won't be able to get in this admissions cycle.

Harvard Pros: Huge academic base with it seems experts in every field, name recognition, probably the best job prospects.
        Cons:  Seems it might be a bit impersonal and overly competitive, not crazy about moving to MA, but again, its not a big deal to me. Probably won't be able to get in this admissions cycle.

About me:

I'm 24, been working for the past 2.5 years as a junior economist at a federal think-tank. Econ major for undergrad at GMU, married to a wonderful lady and fellow GMU Econ grad, own a modest house in the outskirts of NoVA. I find Law very interesting and believe my personal strengths would allow me to do very well in the field. I enjoy life very much and have lots of fun out-door hobbies. Don't want to live in NYC or work 90 hours weeks. Particularly interested in careers that would leverage my knowledge and love for economics or my passion for freedom (i.e. constitutional law).

Thanks and have a great Christmas!

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