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IIRC from early August to the December LSAT, but with a few breaks for vacation, thanksgiving etc, but some people may need much less time while a few may need more time.

Current Law Students / Re: Strange situation
« on: November 25, 2010, 10:08:07 AM »
Mabye, hasn't been to bad for me.  I just tell them, not bared in x-state can't help and/or I'm a corporate x-type lawyer, see me when you have x-type problem.

Current Law Students / Re: Strange situation
« on: November 25, 2010, 10:04:51 AM »
I'd also guess the bouncer is ok, thogh I've no expertise in the area and don't know (and probably am not qualfied) the jurisdiction - in any event it sure as heck isn't worth litigating imho.  Tell your friend to grow up.

Job Search / Re: T1 3L, good gpa, jobless, weighing strategies, advice?
« on: November 25, 2010, 10:03:13 AM »
Check into positions at government agencies other than Honors Programs - I'm not really up on government stuff, but I'm pretty sure they hire quite a lot of attorneys outside the Honors program and some are bound to be less competitive - most honors programs are probably more competitive than a typical biglaw gig.

As for what we did - I did OCI for 2L summer, landed a few callbacks and subsequent offers, took one, summered a the firm, liked it, got an offer that summer, started this fall. 

Job Search / Re: T1 3L, good gpa, jobless, weighing strategies, advice?
« on: November 24, 2010, 07:18:18 AM »
To the OP,

I think your best bet would be to stick with your current program, graduate and try to find an IP job - its likely too late for a biglaw ip job, but it may not be too late to apply the patent office or some governmental agency that deals with ip.

Law School Admissions / Re: When to apply?
« on: November 24, 2010, 07:09:25 AM »
If you've got your stuff together apply the day your score is released. 

Probably a bit late now, but I'd suggest taking all released tests (and reviewing them after to figure out why you got questions wrongs).

I was working full time while studying for the lsat as well.  My job had fairly relaxed hours though - only 45/wk.  I usually worked from 8-6pm, then studied/attended class from 6-11 or 12t. On weekends  I sometimes studied both days, but most often took one day off and studied the other.  Some people may require more time to achieve their best, many won't need as much time.

You are too kind - I was the dumb kid in my highschool peer group and spent as little time studying as possible, didn't do any ap work (was too busy with motorcycles and outdoor stuff).  In this way I was somewhat anomolus among my law school friends.  In college I mostly dropped the fun stuff and studied in a serious manner, though I was working more or less full time as an auto mechanic to pay my way through so couldn't physically put in the hours that some friends did.  Most of my college time was at GMU, Oxford was just for a semester.

Bringing up your score from 143 to 155 is awesome, congrats on that.

Your math is probably a little biased in our favor as lawyers - it assumes that all smart people in college then go to law school.  I suspect that a large portion of the naturally gifted never apply to law school, but go on to do PhDs and such.  In any event, the point is well taken.

Anyhow, I wouldn't get too caught up in all the numbers, just work hard and have fun  8)

Your point is well taken.  Just for reference, it wasn't easy in the sense that it wasn't a ton of work, it was easy in the sense that it is possible to study for the test and do better (as opposed to the notion that the test is one of IQ and one's score cannot be influenced by study and hard work).  I took every single released practice test and did everything in the kaplan program twice. I think that with similar effort, many, perhaps not most, people could get a similar result.  I'm certain that most people could get a 3.9x gpa in most undergraduate programs with sufficient effort.  Some classes did come easily to me - I can get perfect scores in most econ courses without much study, however others were a huge amount of work (chemistry, calculus, etc). I've tutored many college subjects and taught LSAT courses and have seen first-hand the improvements students can make when they really apply themselves and get the instruction and help they need.

I think there is also a bit of luck involved in the LSAT.  My practice scores bounced around by almost 10pts and my actual score ended up higher than my highest practice score.  I strongly suspect I may have had a little help from Above there.

BTW congrats on the BB skills, no matter how tall you are there's still a lot of work involved there too I think.  I played BB for a bit, but I pretty much suck at it - 5'10" here and not an especially natural shooter.  I am, very arguably, approximately the 5th fastest long distance off road motorcycle racer in the States so that's my claim to non-academic/legal fame ::) 

Anyway, my comments were meant to be a point of encouragement for those studying - unlike your height which (within reason) there is nothing a person can do to alter, a person does have a fairly robust, though certainly not unlimited, ability to alter their lsat scores.


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