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Black Law Students / Re: MPRE Takers
« on: September 17, 2008, 09:29:53 PM »
And you also don't wanna be one of those jokers LIKE ME who has to take the MPRE more than once because they just listened to BarBri and studied like 2 days before (if that). 

LOL!   :D  Weren't you a BarBri rep?

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Women: Buying a suit and dressing for your job....
« on: September 17, 2008, 09:14:28 PM »
Hmm, sounds like I don't need to change my wardrobe too much to make it law firm appropriate.  I have a very similar work wardrobe, except that I don't do button-downs and my wardrobe is more colorful (e.g. fuschia and navy short-sleeve cardis).  I know I'm going to have to tone down the color, at least a little, for the firm:( 

I don't know if you necessarily have to tone down those colors.  (Read:  I don't plan to do so.   :D)  As long as you come across as polished and professional, I don't think a fuschia cami peaking out of a black blazer or a navy top with appropriate pants will raise an eyebrow.  (Others can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I know such colors simply  weren't an issue for attorneys at my firm this summer.)   Besides, people with melanin can wear deeper hues as neutrals, and these colors in appropriate shades are often a more flattering and natural look anyway.  Now I'm not talking about a flashy yellow suits, blue hair, or candy-apple red heels, but you're classy enough to know that already.  So, I say do you!  I'm not toning down the colors or the hair or anything else.  I'm the consummate professional and always have been, but I will be projecting that image in a style that is true to me.   :)

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Women: Buying a suit and dressing for your job....
« on: September 17, 2008, 09:06:37 PM »
I'm new here and I haven't read through everything, so forgive me if I'm asking a question that has already been covered, but:

I'm very petite (5'0", 100lbs) and have had a really hard time finding flattering, stylish petite suits.  I know Ann Taylor has a great petite section but where else?  I am reconciled to the fact that I will always have to have pants altered, but am trying to find things that don't have to be completely re-made for me.  It gets expensive...

Buy a petites suit from Banana Republic.  It will most likely fit you perfectly and be even more tailored/crisper than an AnnTaylor suit.  JCrew is another good option, but I find it even more expensive than BR.
A fashion and lifestyle blog for women lawyers, bankers, MBAs, consultants, and otherwise overachieving chicks

This is a great blog!!!  I'm going to tell all my friends about it.

As for structuring your time, I'm sure there are good posts up here about that.  I've probably written one at some point.  I will try to find it and link it to you b/c it's too late to try and type all that out right now.  If I don't send it to you by tomorrow, remind me.  Basic gist: At this point, make sure you're taking timed tests.  Block out the 3? hrs. and sit down with your timer and take the test in one sitting under real conditions (e.g. no tv, radio, interruptions, etc.)  Most importantly -- go over every single answer you got wrong and figure out *why.*  Practice, practice, practice.  Review, review, review.  That's my basic advice in a nutshell.  The night before the test, don't stress.  Do very little studying if any at all.  Get a good night's sleep, have a good breakfast in the a.m., and go rock that test!!!!

As for stats, I don't share personal info over the internet.  I wouldn't spend your time worrying about who got what and who went where though.  You're going to find black students below the 25th percentile and above the 75th percentile at every competitive law school.  And contrary to what the hype on this board would lead you to believe, you're also going to find white students below the 25th percentile and above the 75th percentile at every major law school, too.  At this stage in the game, just focus on upping your LSAT and putting together a really strong application.  If you do, you will have great options!

I'm a black history major at Yale with a 3.57 and a 159. Though I'm taking the LSAT again in October, do you know what chances I have currently to get into a T 14 (preferably Columbia, UPenn, and Georgetown)? Also, does anyone know what the average LSAT scores are for minority (specifically black) applicants?

I'm not even going to bother to read this thread b/c I have zero tolerance for the asinine comments I'm sure your post elicited.    I think your LSAT is low, and you definitely need to re-take with serious exam prep.  This is not an intelligence test; you can totally learn the tricks to master the exam.  How are you prepping?  I recommend Powerscore.  (Search the board for more info.)  Self-study was my route, but if I had been an undergraduate student when I applied to LS, I definitely would've used all that extra time and energy (which I know you think you don't have, but trust me, you do) to take the course. 

How have you been studying since your first exam?  If you haven't been on a serious plan, I suggest you postpone the Oct. test and take it in....December? (the details of the LSAT seem like a distant memory now that I'm a 2L).  As for your GPA, it's decent enough that you should have options if you can up your LSAT.  The GPA is not stellar, but you are at Yale.  Unless Yale has serious grade inflation issues (a subject on which I'm uninformed), your 3.57 isn't the equivalent of that same score at some other institutions.

Anyway, good luck to you with your re-test and law school admissions cycle!

Current Law Students / Re: Racism Hurts
« on: September 17, 2008, 01:03:43 PM »
And while we're on the subject....

Obama is where he is *IN SPITE* of his race, not because of it.  This is the kind of crazy crap that black people are up against day after day, week after week, year after year, decade after decade,  century after century.  The higher you climb, the nastier and more insidious the fight.  This latest stunt from the right-wingers (with whom I agree on some issues, but not on their choice of candidates in this election) is a disgrace to our entire nation and an affront to me as a black American, as a Christian, and as an informed citizen who takes seriously her vote in our democratic system.

First, Aunt Jemima. Then Uncle Ben.  Now I guess it's Obama.  The more things change, the more they stay the same...

Current Law Students / Re: Key To Success
« on: September 17, 2008, 12:58:35 PM »
That's exactly what they say about Obama -- he would not be where he is were he not black.

I'm more interested in Palin.  If she were "Shanika" Palin with the *EXACT SAME* qualifications -- would John McCain have chosen her as his running mate and put her one heartbeat away from the highest office in the most powerful nation on earth?   (Clearly, this is rhetorical!)

Let's face it, folks.  It's not about Obama.  It's Sarah Palin who would not be where she is were she not a white woman.  But our nation isn't intellectually honest enough to admit this.  When blacks achieve, it's because there was some kind of extrinsic handout that made a success out of a lazy, slothful, slow-witted failure who wasn't supposed to do anything other than the 2008 equivalent of "yessir, massa" from the back of the bus, the foot of your bed, or the back door to your establishment.  For many people, there's not one black person -- not Obama, not Oprah, not that black guy in your Civ Pro class who you know "took the spot" of your well-deserving white friend in what is the most insidious case of true (aka reverse) discrimination you've ever witnessed -- who has actually earned anything they've managed to acquire besides perhaps an STD or a sentence of 25 years to life. 

When whites advance, however, it's because they intrinsically earned and deserved the promotion, opportunity, and accolades.  It's never because of luck, their family ties, political connections, physical appearance, financial resources, country-club affiliation, "legacy" status, or (gasp!!) the fact that white people even subconsciously look out for one another and give each other the benefit of the doubt, etc.  And it's certainly not because they are riding on the back of something their daddy/granddaddy did that, in turn, was not earned solely on the basis of his "qualifications"/hard work or was altogether foreclosed to blacks during that era, too.  No, no, no.  It's only the white person's ingenuity, perseverance, determination, preparedness, intelligence, wit, charm, likeability, charisma, brilliance, and the like that opened those doors.  Why, that's the (white) American way.   ::) ::yawn::

Of course, this thinking is the way every generation of whites in this nation has found to justify the continued double-standard when it comes to race and class divisions in this country, and it is a convenient and self-serving doctrine grasped tightly by those who can afford to be comfortably ignorant to the truth.  And for that reason, I and millions of other blacks like me will still  work to knock down barriers, open doors of opportunity for all, and challenge a nation unaccustomed to anything resembling a true meritocracy to actually live out the true meaning of its creed.  Those are just my thoughts.  ymmv

For Those Who Are Confused - Michael Tomasky

I received this email over the weekend from a friendly acquaintance. It should help sort out some questions you may have. The subject heading on the email was "I was confused but now I'm not."  This took some figuring out:

If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're "exotic, different."
Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers -- a quintessential American story.

If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.
Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track -- you're a maverick.

Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.
Attend five different small colleges before graduating, you're well grounded.

If you spend three years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a constitutional law professor, spend eight years as a state senator representing a district with more than 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you don't have any real leadership experience.

If your total resume is: local weather girl, four years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with fewer than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you're qualified to become the country's second highest ranking executive.

If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising two beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not a real Christian.
If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a Christian.

If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.
If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state's school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you're very responsible.

If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment
of her inner-city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values don't represent America's.
If your husband is nicknamed "First Dude," with at least one DWI conviction and no college education, who didn't register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.

OK, much clearer now.

Your post inspired me to look up one of my prof's explanation b/c I thought it was the best I've heard.   Here's a basic outline of what he said:

Nature of Law: What is it? What are legal arguments?

Three contemporary aspects/dimensions:

1) Rules (aka doctrine, blackletter law)
   uncertain in their application
   malleable: same rule can be read broadly or narrowly
   technical → ex) treatises, Restatement (though not law)

2) Policies
   practical moral objectives that say what the rules are driving at (aims, purposes, object)
   rationale for given rules
   can be used to guide/shape rules
   more rhetorical, ringing

3) Cases
   law in motion: operates as arguments
   where tandem of rule structures and policy commitments are brought to bear in a particular controversy

In my experience at HLS, every exam question requires significant policy analysis.  I think this is because anyone with half a pulse can read the cases and point to some blackletter rule.  This is only the beginning of thinking like a lawyer though.  Where you really get to distinguish yourself on final exams (and I assume in practice, too) is in the policy arguments that you can martial in support of your legal analysis of a particular hypothetical.  This is where you will convince your prof (or that judge/jury) that you are right, not your opponent.  This is where you make your listener confident not only that the law is on your side, but rather that the law itself is on the right side. 

The best way to understand the "policy" behind a particular rule or outcome is to pay close attention to the reasoning in court opinions (where you'll often see fairness, consequentialist, or role of courts arguments being made in support of a particular result) and to the things your prof points out as really being at work in a particular case.  Keep challenging yourself to find the "why" (or perhaps the "why not") behind every case, and don't be afraid to engage your prof in policy discussions (perhaps in office hours if need be) so that you know what you need to be able to do by exam time.  Good luck to you!

Black Law Students / Re: Post Your Interesting News Articles Here
« on: September 16, 2008, 11:26:43 PM »
I understand.  How I managed to fall behind  in my reading during week two is beyond me!!!   :P  I have got to get my life together!!!

Black Law Students / Re: Post Your Interesting News Articles Here
« on: September 16, 2008, 01:53:43 PM »
Wow!  Yeah, you have been gone a minute, Jarhead!  Welcome back.

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