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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Waiting on Washington & Lee
« on: March 09, 2007, 02:56:56 PM »
Just curious if anyone else is waiting on W&L...  I think it's a reach for me but if the answer is "No" then I'd really like to find that out soon.  Ugh!  Anyone have any clue on when they might send more acceptances/rejections?  I sent my app in there in mid-December.

I'm in the same position as you.  I emailed them several days ago to see if I could expect a decision by March 15th since my fiancee has a job offer deadline then.  They didn't respond.  Looking at LSN I figured they must be full and were waiting for withdrawals since their only recent decisions were mostly deferrals and rejections.  Looks like the same situation occurred last year and they did take a few in Mid March but things slowed down until late March and after the April deposit deadline.  If I don't hear back from them by mid March I will tell my wife to be to accept the job and I'll be UGA bound.  Best of luck to you.

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Law School Admissions / Re: Accepted TODAY !!
« on: March 09, 2007, 02:39:15 PM »
Let's turn this into the congratulations thread where we all just congratulate each other and then we have to dig through the congratulations for anything worthwhile.

Yeah, I sort of agree. There is one acceptance to every two pages of "congrats" posts. When Data got into Yale it was like a congrats-blizzard...

Lets save the congrats up... do a silentswirl if you must and post a single group congrats at the end of the day or something.

Same here.  I like a congrats every now and then, but this thread has gone from an "acceptance" thread to an "adulation" thread.  I thought the point of the thread was to find out "who" was getting into "what" and "when."  Instead I'm finding out how many people are happy about other people being happy.  Try a private email, its got a more personal touch.

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Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Univ. of Iowa
« on: March 03, 2007, 09:27:31 AM »
Is the Iowa online status checker reliable, or up to date?

I like Iowa. I like cornfields. I liked Bridges of Madison County...Meryl Streep is delightful.  :-*

I've heard that it can be a few days behind.  Because my fiancée has a deadline of March 15th on a job offer, I emailed Iowa yesterday to inquire about a possible decision date.  That afternoon they notified me that I had been accepted but the status checker still says decision in progress.  But my situation could be different from the norm.

By the way, don't forget "Field of Dreams" 8)

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Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Georgia VS. George Mason
« on: March 02, 2007, 06:30:18 AM »
Yesterday, alot of great people helped me with my decision on Alabama vs. Georgia so now I'm faced with a new comparison-  Which should I choose Georgia (total est. cost of living and tuition for me for 3 years- $49578) or George Mason ($98578).  Here's my important factors- as far as state of practice either Georgia (the state outside of Atlanta) or Virginia (the state outside of Washington) is fine with me.  To be honest I will probably choose any state along the Southern portion of the East Coast all the way to Texas.  Now, as for area of law, I'm not that excited about Corporate Law but everything else is fair game.  And one big factor [a must!!!!] is the surrounding school districts since my wife-to-be has to find a job there as a middle school teacher but doesn't want to have to wear body armor at work. 

One intriguing statistic is the starting salaries are $77500 for UGA grads vs. $105,000 for George Mason which could make the extra expense worth it, but I don't really trust blanket statistics in that regards especially if George Mason's numbers are inflated by wealthy Corporate George Mason grads in D.C.  Now I am a UGA undergrad alum, but that home field advantage is somewhat negated by my desire for something new if it has a similar lifestyle to UGA.  Anyway, what would be a better choice and what are some other factors to consider? 

Thanks!

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Financial Aid / Re: An EFC of 0 ????
« on: March 01, 2007, 01:13:49 PM »
I don't get why everyone thinks an EFC that is less than 10k is extreme.  Mine is like 18k and I didn't get upset in the slightest.  You're going to be making good money when you graduate! (Or you'll be choosing not to)

The problem is you can't pay your living expenses now with money you will make then.  EFC's are important for loans that, for many like myself, will be the only means we have to pay our bills.  Lower EFC means more loans which means more bills we can pay which means more school we can attend which means the sooner we can graduate.

I think I've said this a million times, but your EFC does. not. matter.  You will be able to borrow up to the cost of attendance regardless of your EFC. You may not be able to borrow the full $8500 in subsidized Stafford loans (you'll get unsubsidized instead) and if you plan on using LRAP your EFC may not be covered, but you will be able to get just as much loans as anyone else.

If true then its completely different for an independent undergrad.  I know for a fact I couldn't get enough in loans for  living expenses because my EFC was too high.  Besides the financial difference between subsidized and unsubsidized can be substantial- same as buying a car with zero interest vs 6.5% interest.

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Financial Aid / Re: An EFC of 0 ????
« on: March 01, 2007, 01:06:43 PM »
I don't get why everyone thinks an EFC that is less than 10k is extreme.  Mine is like 18k and I didn't get upset in the slightest.  You're going to be making good money when you graduate! (Or you'll be choosing not to)

The problem is you can't pay your living expenses now with money you will make then.  EFC's are important for loans that, for many like myself, will be the only means we have to pay our bills.  Lower EFC means more loans which means more bills we can pay which means more school we can attend which means the sooner we can graduate.

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Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: Bama vs. Georgia
« on: March 01, 2007, 07:38:35 AM »
You really like Tuscaloosa and Athens equally? My impression is there's not much to do in Tuscaloosa if you're not in undergrad and in the greek system, where Athens has a ton of stuff going on.

I qualify for instate at both schools because at Georgia, even though I am an independent, I qualify for instate tuition since my parents currently reside in that state.  While, I qualify for instate at Alabama cause I live and pay taxes there. 

Yeah, I would say there is probably more to do in Athens but most of the superiorities are more for single, young grads or undergrads...not married folks like me.  Besides I was there for 4 years during my undergrad so most of Athens is really "been there, done that" for me.  Yes The music scene is better, but except for an occassional great concert at the Georgia Theater, the concerts are either alternative music at the 40 watt or just an excuse to go to the bars.  And since I'm no longer into the bar scene, I'd rather just buy a CD and stay at home or go to the Apartment parties that all college students host regardless of school.  So, Athens and Tuscaloosa offer about the same amount of entertainment for older, slower and probably more easily entertained fogeys like me. 

But like I said, I'm not knocking Athens at all since I loved it as an undergrad, but for my stage in life now (with my current interests), I would say Athens and Tuscaloosa are about the same.

As far as the contingencies, the Alabama scholarship will renew itself after the first year if I stay within the top 25% of the class.  Just based of statistics and my current academic work-ethic, I see that as completely reasonable for Alabama.  And I actually like those terms because they are a strong motivation for me to work hard and perform. I don't know exactly what the terms are for the UGA scholarship yet (still waiting on the letter with details), but based on the conversation with their financial aid rep. at the law school, I would assume they are no worse.

Really?  My parents both live in Georgia (and I graduated from UGA undergrad, eight+ years ago), but they didn't give me in-state.

Since you have been accepted to greater schools and already withdrew from UGA, I guess its too late, but everyone else in the same situation as you and I should contact the school because they first sent me a letter saying I would be an enrolled as an out-of-state student too.  However, I immediately contacted them to inform them that both my parents have lived within the state of Georgia for more than the past 12 months.  They corrected their "error" and sent me a new letter qualifying me for instate tuition.

P.S. thanks for already withdrawing from W&L.  Maybe that will open up a spot for me! ;D
For everyone else accepted to W&L, if you're even thinking about withdrawing, do so now.  I need a decision from them by March 15th (wife to be has to make a decision about a job offer by then.)

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I got my first acceptance from a school I'm very strongly considering.  Merit based, totals about 1 year free.

The thing is, I get in-state tuition at a comparable school that would be much cheaper.  Based on LSN, there's no way the in-state school will be back to me by April 1st!  I've got 12 pending applications.  This deadline is unreasonably early.

"To accept our offer, you need only respond by email or otherwriting explicitly stating your intention. You may respond any time but no later than April 1, 2007. We require no deposit. Out tradition is to accept your word as an aspirant to the legal profession. Upon receipt of your acceptance, we will begin the process of facilitating your transition to ****** and the School of Law community. Your first day of orentation will begin at 9 a.m. on ***********."

What do I do?

Most schools I've been accepted to require a deposit by April 1st or 2nd.  That date seems to be the norm.  They set this date so they can force their accepted applicants to make a decision by that date and still give their schools enough time to fill all the spots left vacant by the withdrawals.  These vacants spots are filled from candidates patiently waiting in pergatory (aka the waitlist).  Anyway, when did you go complete at these other schools?  If you did it by mid-Feb. or earlier and haven't heard back from them by April 1st then you will probably be waitlisted and you might not get a final decision till July (usually it doesn't take this long for a waitlist candidate to get a final decision but it could).  But I really expect you will hear back from your other schools one way or another by April 1st (unless you just applied yesterday).  Just as this school has given you an April 1st deadline, other schools have given themselves the same deadline to have all their decisions made on easily qualified candidates before they start looking at waitlist candidates.  So while this process has seem so slow till now and some schools may have waited for months to give you a decision, this last month will be much quicker so expect decisions to start flooding in.

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Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: Bama vs. Georgia
« on: March 01, 2007, 04:45:12 AM »
You really like Tuscaloosa and Athens equally? My impression is there's not much to do in Tuscaloosa if you're not in undergrad and in the greek system, where Athens has a ton of stuff going on.

I qualify for instate at both schools because at Georgia, even though I am an independent, I qualify for instate tuition since my parents currently reside in that state.  While, I qualify for instate at Alabama cause I live and pay taxes there. 

Yeah, I would say there is probably more to do in Athens but most of the superiorities are more for single, young grads or undergrads...not married folks like me.  Besides I was there for 4 years during my undergrad so most of Athens is really "been there, done that" for me.  Yes The music scene is better, but except for an occassional great concert at the Georgia Theater, the concerts are either alternative music at the 40 watt or just an excuse to go to the bars.  And since I'm no longer into the bar scene, I'd rather just buy a CD and stay at home or go to the Apartment parties that all college students host regardless of school.  So, Athens and Tuscaloosa offer about the same amount of entertainment for older, slower and probably more easily entertained fogeys like me. 

But like I said, I'm not knocking Athens at all since I loved it as an undergrad, but for my stage in life now (with my current interests), I would say Athens and Tuscaloosa are about the same.

As far as the contingencies, the Alabama scholarship will renew itself after the first year if I stay within the top 25% of the class.  Just based of statistics and my current academic work-ethic, I see that as completely reasonable for Alabama.  And I actually like those terms because they are a strong motivation for me to work hard and perform. I don't know exactly what the terms are for the UGA scholarship yet (still waiting on the letter with details), but based on the conversation with their financial aid rep. at the law school, I would assume they are no worse.

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Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Bama vs. Georgia
« on: February 28, 2007, 07:20:13 PM »
Here's my situation- I've got a full tuition scholarship from Alabama for the next 3 years while I've got a $3000 per year scholarship at Georgia.  Since I qualify for instate status to both schools, that means Bama's offer is worth roughly $20,000 more.  I like Tuscaloosa and Athens along with the law schools equally, but I have a slight preference for practicing one day in Georgia over Alabama.  However, in all likelyhood I would like to practice in a new state.  With all that in mind, would the extra $20,000 be worth it, or does a Georgia degree have the same portability as a Bama degree or is difference is so small to make 3 years w/o loans worth choosing Bama.

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