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that's a scam in my book

Law School Admissions / Re: Held at Michigan
« on: January 03, 2007, 12:29:23 PM »
I guess I see it as a hold because that's exactly what its doing -- holding you for latter.  We like you enough not to reject you but we don't like you enought to accept you outright.

Rightly or wrongly I distinguish between hold and deferral as follows -- deferral is for EA/ED applicants only.  Hold is for regular applicants to let them know that while they aren't an auto-admit they are still in the running.

I hear your point weesquek, but I applied to Mich so early in the cycle, that I consider this a deferral, even if techinically they don't have an EA program.  When there's a rolling admissions process and they've had your application more than 2 months, it means essentially that they want to wait and see who else applies before accepting/rejecting you.  That to me is the same thing as being deferred.   

Law School Admissions / Re: Held at Michigan
« on: January 03, 2007, 12:19:30 PM »
I got it too, it's a deferral.

Law School Admissions / Re: Law School Score? What does this mean?
« on: January 03, 2007, 12:13:31 PM »
How does one calculate index score?

No offense to anyone, but this smells like a scam - unless you're a URM or have published two books, I don't think anyone under 168 has a chance.  Thanks for all the feedback;  I'll keep my money in my pocket - Boston is too cold anyway (sour grapes). 

Law School Admissions / Re: Harvard Application Invite Email Today
« on: January 03, 2007, 11:39:13 AM »
I agree, especially considering that they'll be getting a ton of applications with all the people who broke 170 on the December LSAT. 

Law School Admissions / Re: Harvard Application Invite Email Today
« on: January 03, 2007, 11:32:44 AM »
lsat 167, gpa 3.75

Law School Admissions / Re: Harvard Application Invite Email Today
« on: January 03, 2007, 11:30:03 AM »
oops - we must have posted at the same time.  I got one too. 


I'm 167 LSAT and 3.75 LSDAS GPA, non URM.

Althought I've applied to a number of T14 schools, I didn't bother applying to Harvard since I figured I don't have a shot in hell. 

Then, today, I get this email:

The Law School Admissions Council has informed me that you may be considering law school this year.  I invite you to take a closer look at HLS and the unparalleled opportunities that are available in our legal "metropolis."

Harvard Law School is a dynamic, vibrant, and energetic place to study the law.  HLS is home to the world's most intellectually interesting and diverse law faculty, leading an incredible array of courses, seminars, and reading groups, which cover every major substantive area of legal study.  Our size is our greatest strength.  For example, Harvard Law School offers approximately 250 courses (100 with enrollments of fewer than 25 students), 500+ clinical placements, and over 100 student organizations ranging from the Scales of Justice (our a cappella group) to the prestigious Harvard Law Review.

In addition, Harvard's focus on public service and international legal studies means that our students are part of the world and having an impact on its many communities.

Admission remains highly competitive at Harvard Law School, but each application receives individual consideration by our team of faculty members and admissions officers.  We believe that a student body with a wide range of experiences, interests, and backgrounds helps to create the best teaching and learning environment imaginable.  While this message in no way ensures your admission, we encourage you to apply.  Every year, we end up admitting students who never thought they had a chance at getting into Harvard!

Please visit Harvard Law School online at to explore the extensive resources and opportunities available to J.D. students, or follow the links below for more information on specific topics that interest you.


Toby W. Stock
Assistant Dean for Admissions

Has anyone else gotten an email like this?  Are they just trying to up their applications, or does this mean I may have an actual chance?  Are they just after my application fee, as most solicitation emails will waive the fee, and this one does not? 

Please send me your thoughts, I don't want to flush my $100 application fee down the toilet, but if I seriously have a chance at Harvard, then I'll apply.  (I should probably mention that I have a ton of soft factors, work experience, foreign travel/languages, etc. - but they couldn't have known that just from my LSDAS numbers).

Incoming 1Ls / Re: How old is too old to begin law school?
« on: December 10, 2006, 10:26:55 AM »
Interesting thread - thought I'd give my take:

I'll be starting law school next fall, just a few days after turning 27.  Back in college, I was the only philosophy major NOT going into law.  I didn't even consider it. at the time, living an exciting life was more important to me.  I got a Masters degree, lived abrod for 2+ years, learnt a couple of foreign languages, and came home to settle into "real life".  So I'm 26, working as a linguist/researcher (i.e. glorified paralegal) for a law firm and it hit me that with a JD, I could be making 3 times as much money and have a lot more control (and a lot more fun) with the cases I'm working on.  Suddenly money and career became importantto me, so I decided to go to law school. 

As to the benefits of being a bit older with life experience. 

1. I got a high-mediocre lsat score (167), and a decent GPA (3.87) but I've still managed to get into GULC and I'm waiting to hear from other top schools to which I've applied.  I imagine that at the worst I'll be waitlisted at some of them.  An undergraduate with my same numbers, but without all my life experience soft factors, would probably not have as good chances of getting into a top law school. 

2. Having already spent a couple of years working for a well-respected law firm, I have numerous connections that will hopefully help me when I'm looking for 1L and 2L summer internships.

3. My masters degree and fluency in 2 foreign languages will probably give me a leg up in trying to land an intership/job at any law firm that does international law, especially in my region of expertise. 

However, there is a part of me that wishes I had just gone straight to law school from undergrad.  It's a bit tough to work with attorneys who are 2 years younger than me and making twice what I make and know that it will take me three years of law school, plus years of toiling for a national firm, to even hope to catch up to them salary-wise.  All of my soft factors combined will not make up for the 5 years that I'll lag behind my undergrad classmates.  I can only hope that my extra skills will land me a better more interesting job than I otherwise could have gotten. 

In answer to how old is too old, I think that any age is fine to go to law school, but age should be a factor in determining which law school to attend.  Under 30 and single (or few responsibilities) , it makes sense to go to the best law school you can, because you'll have time to pay off the debts and the better degree is more valuable for a long-term career.  If I were over 30 with a family, I wouldn't be looking at top schools.  I would focus more on keeping my debt down and choose a school offering me a free ride. 

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