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Incoming 1Ls / Re: Black's Law Dictionary
« on: November 19, 2005, 07:53:25 PM »
The previous poster was trying to tell you you can access it through sense in purchasing a cd rom version. lexis/nexis has about 3 or 4 law dictionaries you an access also

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: What are my chances?
« on: August 27, 2005, 02:43:33 PM »
unless your a URM, you'd be lucky to get into 1 or 2 of those schools with a 152. my buddy applied 3 years ago and had a 152....the only school that accepted him was penn state, and he applied to 23 schools. Penn State's median is now up to 156 or so...when we applied it was 147. Like another poster stated, raising your lsat is critical.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Am I Reaching Too High As Well?
« on: August 17, 2005, 04:15:04 PM »
that lsat sure doesn't make marquette a safety school. If i was you, i'd be applying to a bunch of 3rd tiers.

I also got out of the military to go to law school. I posted my personal statement on my blog...which is attached to my LSD profile, if you want to give it a read. As can be expected lots of fluff, but it got me into school. It should be posted somewhere b/w july-september '04.

you are correct about schools not really caring about military experience...i know most of them didn't care when i applied 3 years ago. i don't miss the application process one bit.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: JAG Program
« on: August 02, 2005, 07:03:20 PM »
I don't claim to be an expert on the navy, having served in the Air Force myself. However, common sense dictates that recruiters tell you what you want to hear. If you're in the navy you're not going to be in baghdad...or likely any combat zone. however, seamen spend a great deal of time on boats. Just because you're not "stationed" in another country doesn't mean you're not going to spend six months a year at sea on a ship...almost everyone does. You'd be shocked at all the trouble dillweed enlisted kids get themselves into...or better yet pilots who get drunk and max out their gov't credit cards in strip clubs. With 5000 people on a carrier and nothing to do for six months, people are always getting in trouble...consequently there needs to be an army of attorneys to deal with legal issues.

Like I always say...anyone with any sense will ask a recruiter what the jag retention rate is, and what the divorce rate is for officers for their branch. then cross check their reaction with facts. Clearly they paint a rosy picture of the military, so the correlative will have to be high retention/ low divorce rates....right????

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Civil Law???
« on: July 27, 2005, 08:57:41 PM »
You might want to investigate further... I've never heard of a school that ONLY teaches civil law courses in the U.S. Needless to say, you'll likely take numerous civil code courses b/c most loyola grads never leave the city. You'll still take that standard stuff every other law student in the country has to take too. However, when it's all said and done, if you go to a common law state, you'll have wasted numerous hours learning the civil code and will never use it....but if you want to do international law, those classes will be valuable for the numerous civil law countries on the planet.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: State residency status
« on: July 25, 2005, 08:02:57 AM »
You need to contact each school you're interested in. just b/c you're considered a state resident DOESN'T mean you're eligible for in-state tuition. Almost all schools have a disclaimer stating you can't be a resident for purposes of attending school. Consequently, you need to provide proof that you plan on remaining within the state following graduation. As a result, most states have laws requiring residency for one year prior to the first day of class. of the 17 schools i applied to, only Ole Miss said they would guarantee in state residency after the first year.

Even more disturbing, if a school doesn't tell you they automatically offer in state residency after the first year, research further!!! There are several out of state residents who are extremely bitter this fall b/c they were led to believe they'd be given in state residency after the first year, and just found out they were denied residency for tuition purposes....looks like they need to come up with an extra $15k this year!

Finally you have to realize residency is a's know it as well as potential students...if they can sucker a few more people to apply they will. On the other hand, it's amazing how many people i know at my school who came here b/c "they have to take care of their sick grandparents." So really, schools aren't going to believe any remarkable stories about why you need in state residency...b/c i'm sure there are 50 people in your class that created far more dramatic fables.

personally i would look at more schools. I applied to UConn 3 years ago w/ a 154 3.5, and was a connecticut state resident...they said thanks but no thanks. the other tier 1s you listed are even longer shots.Unless you're a URM schools really don't care about your socio-economic problems.

As for the other schools, they're extremely expensive and really don't hold any prestige in new england in general. if you really want to practice in mass...suffolk has a surprisingly strong following there, but it's huge. So you're going to have very large classes and likely a hefty attrition rate.

i'm sure most maine lawyers are from u maine. Most the backwoods new england states are hurting for attorneys....Maine/NH even come all the way down here to LSU to recruit.

Long story short, from what you've given...i'd likely go with u maine #1 and suffolk #2 significantly factoring-in the ridiculous tuition and large size of suffolk....and then just clump the rest together as safety schools.

Being a JAG definitely does NOT help you get a job if you decide to get out! you have to realize when you go into the military, you're going to be an officer first and a lawyer reality, it means that as you progress in rank you're going to be expected to be more of a manager and less of an attorney. Pretty much you'll enter as a 1st Lt. and become a Capt like 6 months later. Then for the next 4-7 years you're going to be a lawyer. The problem that arises is when you pin on that point you're going to be management...unless you get lucky with some high profile project; which you'll likely only be a glorified clerk for a colonel. either way, unless you get out as soon as your commitment is up, you're resume will start to suffer b/c the longer you stay in the more distant your hands on legal experience will become.

If you call a jag office they'll sugar coat it for you, but just ask them what most retiring jags are doing, if they're truthful they'll tell you they're practicing military law in the private sector.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: GWU v. UC Davis
« on: May 06, 2005, 11:08:26 PM »
GW definitely. UC Davis is a good school,'s still a bastard step child school in cali. since it's in no man's land in between sacramento and san fran it really seems to lose a lot of luster amongst its peers. when i lived there i was a bit surprised by the local opinions. but with all the great schools in cali and the fact it's less than two hours from stanford and berkeley...its tier one prestige really gets hammered.

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