« on: April 02, 2007, 01:31:01 PM »
ben harper: welcome to the cruel world
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I always get a kick out of how frequently I see vegetarians berating non-vegetarians for their moral decisions when it comes to what they eat. 99% of the time, if the tables were turned and someone else were berating them for their moral decisions when it comes to things like religion, abortion, gay marriage, et al., they would (rightfully) tell said person to take their morals and shove them.
The two situations are not similar at all. Animal activists often claim that animals do indeed have rights. If that is the case, our eating them would infringe on the animals' rights, while gays marrying infringes on nobody's rights. The question is of course, do animals have rights? I obviously think they don't, but if someone thought they did, I could definitely see how they could be outraged by people eating them.
How are they dissimilar? Animal activists often claim that animals do indeed have rights, just like anti-abortion activists often claim that fetuses (fetii?) do indeed have rights. In both cases, killing them would theoretically infringe on that entities rights. I can definitely see how people are outraged in both cases, but that doesn't mean that either one of them is right.
Beeker,Thanks for the advice everyone!
And people are animals... do you support eating people so long as they are tastey?
Are you suggesting, then, that when animals (other than humans) eat other animals, following the food chain that has existed, oh, say, forever, they are doing something wrong?
I truly don't want to sound like a jerk, because I respect someone else's right to choose to not eat animals. What I don't respect is people who make that choice and then bother other humans who choose to follow the food chain.
That said, I love living animals, too (see avatar). Duke has lots of animal law stuff, including both a class and a clinic.
So does GW:
DICLAIMER: There is no insinuation attached to this honest question.
Do most animal rights activists pick and choose which animals count as animals, or are they relatively Jainist when it comes to that kind of thing? I mean, do you still kill flies, mosquitoes, etc.?
PETA is evil and has a history of its members harming animals (like "liberating" them from labs and then leaving them in dumpsters), and does a huge disservice to animal rights by delegitimizing the entire cause with their insanity.